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06-29-2009, 08:50 PM   #1
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FA* 80-200 or DA* 60-250 or DA* 50-135+ Tamron 70-200/2.8

cost isn't a concern. what's your choose ? why?
1. FA* 80-200
2. DA* 60-250
3. DA* 50-135+ Tamron 70-200/2.8

for portrait & candid. concert is additional.


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How do you plan to use the lens?

I just received a 60-250 and it is an amazing lens. It produces extremely sharp, contrasty pictures through its entire zoom and aperture ranges.

I bought three Tamron 70-200 F2.8s before buying the Pentax. The first Tamron was decentered, on the second one the aperture would randomly stick wide open, and the third one was decentered. If one of the three lenses was useable, I certainly would have kept it. The one with the sticking aperture did not have a centering problem and it was an amazingly sharp, contrasty lens with almost no CA. I just got tired of boxing them up and sending them back. The focusing is by the camera body and it is very fast and accurate. The focusing also works well in low light, but it is noisy.

The Pentax is a very solidly built, high quality lens. It showed no signs of decentering. I like the fact that it is very compact at 60mm (but heavy!) I can fit it (just barely) in my camera bag. It gets positively huge at 250mm - it is longer than my DA* 300mm. It is not an internal zoom like the Tamron. It weighs about the same as the Tamron, but the Tamron is F2.8 and a full frame lens. The focusing on the Pentax is virtually silent, but not particularly fast (at least on a K20D).

One big gripe I have about the Pentax is that it does not appear to actually be 250mm. I know that this is hard to believe, but when I set my target distance at 15' the Pentax seems to be more like 200mm. I need to do more testing. I don't see how it could be a problem with just my sample.

I would not get both the 50-135 and the Tamron, because the 60-250 Pentax covers this range nicely with one lens and it is cheaper. Even though it is an F4, it works indoors nicely (on a K20D). Here is a candid picture I took at 250mm F4 indoors - it is very sharp.





QuoteOriginally posted by malakola Quote
cost isn't a concern. what's your choose ? why?
1. FA* 80-200
2. DA* 60-250
3. DA* 50-135+ Tamron 70-200/2.8

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06-29-2009, 10:14 PM   #3
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I had a hang-up at first with the f/4 max. aperture on the DA* 60-250, but after trying my friend's DA* 50-135 and using only f/4 as a test (instead of the f/2.8 that I thought I wanted), I learned that I could very easily live with this. This also confirmed that 135mm is just not long enough for me, plus the 60-250 covers a wider range than the Tamron.

Therefore, the DA* 60-250 is my next goal since I already have the shorter focal lengths effectively covered. I was initially sold on this lens when I looked at the one review of it on this site (the "Lens Review" section) that had all the sample photos and 100% crops. I was very impressed!

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I have been thinking similar thoughts.
For me tho, the 16-50 and 50-135 seems a natural WR pair to center a zoom lineup around so with those set the question is what to do about 135mm+
One way is to get the da 200, another is the 60-250 and a third is a 70-200 lens.
The 60-250 seems a nice lens but f4 is too slow for me. Its also expensive.
I am leaning towards the tamron because its significantly cheaper than the da 200 and more flexible. And being f2.8 means you can augment it with a 1.4/1.5 TC and still get a usable lens. In fact it would zoom up to 300mm f4 with a 1.5 TC.
Questions remains if the Tamron is a good enough lens, its discouraging to hear about pentaxman's sample problems, as far as I have read it seems a very nice lens optically but with AF as its main weakness.

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How do you plan to use the lens?
portrait & candid

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Here is a candid picture I took at 250mm F4 indoors - it is very sharp.
so cool
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I could definitely say that the 50-135mm is a lovely lens. The images (like others have said) are high in contrast and it creates beautiful colors, almost like I did Photoshop on the pictures! The only downside is that 135mm isn't very far for sports or wild-life, but I have found it was the perfect range for portraits (full-body might be difficult to do sometimes), outdoor events, indoor events, and indoor sports/play. Highly recommend. My copy was sharp/contrasty, but the MF ring was slightly loose. Exchanging via Amazon soon. Haven't seen any other problems similar to mine on google or pentaxforums.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pentaxman Quote

One big gripe I have about the Pentax is that it does not appear to actually be 250mm. I know that this is hard to believe, but when I set my target distance at 15' the Pentax seems to be more like 200mm. I need to do more testing. I don't see how it could be a problem with just my sample.

Thats not unusual for a lot of zooms. My Tamron 18-250 is more like 188mm when its focused fairly close in. I suspect yours is similar, about.

When you focus at infinity, then your zoom is supposed to approach the 250mm FL. in other words, the focus affects the FL

Its not nice when they don't tell us up front about that, is it
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What really amazes me about this lens is the amount of fine detail and contrast it has at all focal lengths and apertures. Even at F4, you can see fine gradations of color and contrast in huge enlargements. Although in this resized crop of the previously posted photo you cannot see it, in the original photo, I can see my reflection in the subject's eye.






QuoteOriginally posted by malakola Quote
portrait & candid


so cool



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I am on a verge of saving enough money for either DA* 60-250 F4 or FA* 80-200mm F/2.8, cant really decide since I cant test them. From far and sample photos FA 60-200 seems slightly better lens though. Any experiences with both?
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Well take a look at my littel display:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/143968-da-60-250mm-f4-test.html

I wouldn't choose for the two lens option, since then your candidmoments are gone. There is also the Sigma 70-200mm option. That brings the total in lenschoice to 80-200, 60-250, 50-135, 70-200 (tamron or sigma).

Of those for portrait I would choose the 50-135mm lens. That is simply the very best option for short and lightweight lens. Number two would be the 60-250mm lens when you are afraid that lenslength is short on the first choice.

There is a test here on PF on the other three lenses. I think all are very capable, but different in some ways. All three are heavy lenses and that makes them less usable for your choice off work, candids.
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Great photos there with 60-250! I went through all I should have, it came down to 80-200 F2.8 or 60-250 f4. I like the contrast and colors on 80-200 more, but cant get it new and its a lot of money to even bother with seller, not something like getting damaged old lens. On the other hand, 60-250 is almost same performer, only I feel I would have better use of 80-200. Would be great if someone who have/had them both could say a word.
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Wow - this thread is over 4 years old.......
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Wow - this thread is over 4 years old.......
It is what it is, Stan.
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Wow - this thread is over 4 years old.......
I did not see that, but still there are people looking at the exact same choices today.
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Including me! I'm going for the Tamron 70-200 f2.8
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