Originally posted by newarts For a constant camera & width of field, depth of field depends ONLY on f-number, so a longer lens really doesn't help for the same composition.
Right. This is a very hard aspect to understand, let alone describe, but I want a longer lens because there's more affecting the bokeh than most people think.
Yes, a 50mm at F1.4 will have the same measurable depth of field as an 85mm at F1.4. But a 50mm and an 85mm will have physically different sized apertures, even if they're both at F1.4
For the 50mm, the aperture would be 50mm/f1.4 = 37mm wide
For the 85mm, the aperture would be 85mm/f1.4 = 61mm wide
This doesn't make the depth of field any narrower, but it makes the bokeh thicker. This extra-thick bokeh is what I'm after, for maximum isolation of my subjects. To test this out for yourself, go grab a constant-aperture zoom lens and zoom in. Watch the bokeh in the background. It does far more than just magnify.
(For anyone following along, but not understanding: any "constant aperture" lens is actually making the aperture bigger as you zoom in, to allow more light to enter)