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09-24-2009, 11:03 AM   #16
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The Helios 44-m is one of those lenses that just makes it fun to shoot random
objects wide-open.









09-24-2009, 11:15 AM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by deadwolfbones Quote
In general, the Helios-44s have excellent center sharpness from wide open, but have "interesting" corner/edge softness and bokeh. I absolutely adore the three that I have, but they're not the best if you want edge-to-edge sharpness...
Interesting...

My experience has been somewhat different in that I have found the edges to maintain sharpness pretty well...maybe differences in subject? I may have to pull out the cereal boxes and do the long-delayed 50-something shoot-out (cereal/food boxes at 20x the focal length...). It should be interesting since I currently have the following 50-somethings:

Pentax-M 50/1.7
Pentax-A 50/1.7
Auto-Rikenon 50/1.7
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 55/1.8
Pentax-K 55/1.8
XR Rikenon 50/2
Helios 44M 58/2
Sigma 50/2.8 EX DG Macro

I am half afraid to do the test since I have a good notion already where the rankings may fall...

Steve

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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
........... I have the 44M and 44-2. The 44M is a larger lens with a bigger base and fits very nicely on the camera. (also has the A/M switch like Takumars do)
The 44-2 is a much smaller 'based' lens, and it sits on the adaptor and not actually against the camera. But it still works with the Pentax adaptor and does not get stuck.

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Great info.

By chance I do happen to have the exact same lenses and due to your information I'm already trying them.

Thanks
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Thanks guys,
I'm really thinking that at 9.99 I can't go wrong with it, but then that shop doesn't sell original Pentax adapter. They sell cheap ones for 9.99 so I'd be at just under 20 for the whole lot. If I'll like the lens, I may purchase Pentax adaper from SRS (at 22).
I will see.
Thank you for all the info and pics, sorry for those which I didn't notice (Gus) I was browsing on my phone...
Thank you all again,

BR
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though on second thought.
Looking at Voe's test SMC 50/1.7 spanks out the Helios (at least his copy) at any given f stop in any given IQ attribute. Since I have mint F50/1.7 (therefore AF and AE) the only reason for Helios would be bokeh and extra 8mm it seems. So really VERY specialised lens for me. So I'll sleep on this one.

But thanks again for all the thoughts, samples etc

BR
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09-24-2009, 03:18 PM   #21
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Hey Peter...

I am frozen in disbelief

You really looked at Voe's test shots to decide?

Dont get me wrong, I like my M50 1.7 just fine... But you could offer me 10 of them for my Helios 44M and I would not make the trade.

I guess that is the beauty of these lenses and photography in general, one mans sharp, warm lens is anothers cold fish.
One persons trippy bokeh, is anothers headache

Not everyone is ready to hear the Gospel of Helios according to Gus...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
I am frozen in disbelief

You really looked at Voe's test shots to decide?

Dont get me wrong, I like my M50 1.7 just fine... But you could offer me 10 of them for my Helios 44M and I would not make the trade.

Gus is right. Final conclusions cannot be made from a single test as there is sample to sample variation in quality, especially with older lenses (we never know how many times the previous owners dropped them ).
But my sample of the 50mm M f/1.7 was the sharpest thing wide open I ever had. Later I sold it in order to "upgrade" to the A 50mm f/1.7 but it was not sharp at all in comparison with the M version. Unfortunately I can't get my M back.


QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
Not everyone is ready to hear the Gospel of Helios according to Gus...
Gus, many are called, but few are chosen, but you must keep on the good fight.
As for me, you are preaching to the choir, cause I love soviet lenses.

Sorry if I hijack the OT but I will just mention a few here to help spread the word.

Volna-9 for its bokeh wide open, and 1:2 macro ability.
Helios-40 for its unique character and extreme bokeh (not for the faint hearted).
Helios-44-xx for the best price/performance ratio lens ever.
Jupiter-9 best price/performance 85mm lens.
Jupiter-37A for its Leica like colors and smooth bokeh rendering.
Mir-1 for it's old style color rendering (not to be confused with the newer Mir-1B. Mir-1B is bad, bad, Mir-1 is good.)
Mir-24 for it's close focus abilities and fast aperture and color rendering.

Back to topic I think the OP should get the Helios-44 especially when it is so cheap. I still keep my 44-2.

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I thought that Gus defected to Japan with his newly acquired lens.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
I am frozen in disbelief

You really looked at Voe's test shots to decide?

Dont get me wrong, I like my M50 1.7 just fine... But you could offer me 10 of them for my Helios 44M and I would not make the trade.

I guess that is the beauty of these lenses and photography in general, one mans sharp, warm lens is anothers cold fish.
One persons trippy bokeh, is anothers headache

Not everyone is ready to hear the Gospel of Helios according to Gus...

But I do.

Buy the Helios, it's worth every penny 10 times. I have two copies, (the original and the 4-version), and I especially love the original. You won't be dissapointed!!!!!!!
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