31mm LTD Silver not Black

68wSteve · 10-06-2009, 03:31 PM

What is a good price for one of these used?

Thanks

clover · 10-06-2009, 04:00 PM

very good price = 400USD...

good price = 500-600USD

davidvcd · 10-06-2009, 07:11 PM

for the 31mm ??? havent seen one under 700.

Nick Siebers · 10-06-2009, 07:53 PM

Usually more like $800. Which is just a bit rich for me, alas.

Spock · 10-06-2009, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Nick Siebers

Usually more like $800. Which is just a bit rich for me, alas.

All the more reason why Pentax needs to produce an affordable fast normal lens for DSLRs. 50mm F1.4, F1.7 and F2 lenses were all available for reasonable prices in the past (often as 'kit' lenses) - why not a similar lens somewhere around the 30mm range now?

kristoffon · 10-07-2009, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Spock

All the more reason why Pentax needs to produce an affordable fast normal lens for DSLRs. 50mm F1.4, F1.7 and F2 lenses were all available for reasonable prices in the past (often as 'kit' lenses) - why not a similar lens somewhere around the 30mm range now?

Sigma already makes a very decent 31mm f/1.4.

Gooshin · 10-07-2009, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Spock

All the more reason why Pentax needs to produce an affordable fast normal lens for DSLRs. 50mm F1.4, F1.7 and F2 lenses were all available for reasonable prices in the past (often as 'kit' lenses) - why not a similar lens somewhere around the 30mm range now?

why?

no one shoots that wide open anyway

the DA40 F2.8 is a fantastic lens.

the FA31 is for niche photography.

mtroute · 10-07-2009, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Gooshin

why?

no one shoots that wide open anyway

Really? I do.

superfuzzy · 10-07-2009, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by Gooshin

why?

no one shoots that wide open anyway...

I respectfully disagree

davidvcd · 10-07-2009, 09:57 AM

I also shoot wide open at times, especially in low light situations.

Gooshin · 10-07-2009, 10:05 AM

F1.8??

go do an analysis of your photo library of F1.8 keepers.

now keep in mind i have an F1.2 lens myself...

but its very rare that i go down that low, F2.8 is usually the bottom, anything less is for very specialty shots

axl · 10-07-2009, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Gooshin

F1.8??

go do an analysis of your photo library of F1.8 keepers.

now keep in mind i have an F1.2 lens myself...

but its very rare that i go down that low, F2.8 is usually the bottom, anything less is for very specialty shots

You have a point there.
I do believe that for normal photography one rarely needs annything faster than 2.8.
But on the other side, there is a lot of people who enjoy shallow dof of fast lenses.
But I do't think fast cheap normal lens is what Pentax should be concentrating on. I think they have bigger gaps to fill.
BR

kristoffon · 10-07-2009, 04:25 PM

Nonsense. Your definition of "normal" is a bit biased. Just a couple weeks ago I shot a family dinner with the FA31. No flash. Stuck at f/1.8 the whole time, 1/30s, ISO1600. Many GREAT shots. F/2.8 would mean either ISO3200 (noise becomes a problem, colors noticeably washed) or 1/15s (movement becomes a problem).

68wSteve · 10-07-2009, 10:25 PM

thanks for the replys, was wondering about price, because there was a used one for sale here in korea. Im thinking of getting the sigma 30mm to save money anyways.

kristoffon do you have any shots from the family dinner you can share?

kristoffon · 10-08-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by 68wSteve

kristoffon do you have any shots from the family dinner you can share?

Not online, sorry. But there's a bunch of others in my flickr set for the FA31, most wide open, high res, if you want to take a peek.

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Nick Siebers Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,165	Usually more like $800. Which is just a bit rich for me, alas.

10-06-2009, 10:25 PM	#5
Spock Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 674	Originally posted by Nick Siebers Usually more like $800. Which is just a bit rich for me, alas. All the more reason why Pentax needs to produce an affordable fast normal lens for DSLRs. 50mm F1.4, F1.7 and F2 lenses were all available for reasonable prices in the past (often as 'kit' lenses) - why not a similar lens somewhere around the 30mm range now?

10-07-2009, 09:07 AM	#6
kristoffon Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 532	Originally posted by Spock All the more reason why Pentax needs to produce an affordable fast normal lens for DSLRs. 50mm F1.4, F1.7 and F2 lenses were all available for reasonable prices in the past (often as 'kit' lenses) - why not a similar lens somewhere around the 30mm range now? Sigma already makes a very decent 31mm f/1.4.

10-07-2009, 09:18 AM	#7
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by Spock All the more reason why Pentax needs to produce an affordable fast normal lens for DSLRs. 50mm F1.4, F1.7 and F2 lenses were all available for reasonable prices in the past (often as 'kit' lenses) - why not a similar lens somewhere around the 30mm range now? why? no one shoots that wide open anyway the DA40 F2.8 is a fantastic lens. the FA31 is for niche photography.

10-07-2009, 09:35 AM	#8
mtroute Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 533	Originally posted by Gooshin why? no one shoots that wide open anyway Really? I do.

10-07-2009, 09:36 AM	#9
superfuzzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ, USA (close to NYC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 278	Originally posted by Gooshin why? no one shoots that wide open anyway... I respectfully disagree

10-07-2009, 09:57 AM	#10
davidvcd Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NorthernVA , USA / Grenoble, FRANCE Posts: 148	I also shoot wide open at times, especially in low light situations.

10-07-2009, 10:05 AM	#11
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	F1.8?? go do an analysis of your photo library of F1.8 keepers. now keep in mind i have an F1.2 lens myself... but its very rare that i go down that low, F2.8 is usually the bottom, anything less is for very specialty shots

10-07-2009, 11:59 AM	#12
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by Gooshin F1.8?? go do an analysis of your photo library of F1.8 keepers. now keep in mind i have an F1.2 lens myself... but its very rare that i go down that low, F2.8 is usually the bottom, anything less is for very specialty shots You have a point there. I do believe that for normal photography one rarely needs annything faster than 2.8. But on the other side, there is a lot of people who enjoy shallow dof of fast lenses. But I do't think fast cheap normal lens is what Pentax should be concentrating on. I think they have bigger gaps to fill. BR

10-07-2009, 04:25 PM	#13
kristoffon Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 532	Nonsense. Your definition of "normal" is a bit biased. Just a couple weeks ago I shot a family dinner with the FA31. No flash. Stuck at f/1.8 the whole time, 1/30s, ISO1600. Many GREAT shots. F/2.8 would mean either ISO3200 (noise becomes a problem, colors noticeably washed) or 1/15s (movement becomes a problem).

10-07-2009, 10:25 PM	#14
68wSteve Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas 76053 Posts: 474 Original Poster	thanks for the replys, was wondering about price, because there was a used one for sale here in korea. Im thinking of getting the sigma 30mm to save money anyways. kristoffon do you have any shots from the family dinner you can share?

10-08-2009, 09:13 AM	#15
kristoffon Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 532	Originally posted by 68wSteve kristoffon do you have any shots from the family dinner you can share? Not online, sorry. But there's a bunch of others in my flickr set for the FA31, most wide open, high res, if you want to take a peek.