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10-15-2009, 01:47 PM   #1
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DA* 50-135 as a nature walk lens?

I want a good quality lens for nature walks, shooting birds, waves at a beach, etc...

I'm concerned that the 50 is too long and 135 might be a bit too short. More concerned about the 50 being too long tho.

I know they have the DA* 16-50, but that would suck for good bird shots. I want weathersealing (primary reason for looking at the DA*) and changing lenses where weathersealing is needed would be a no-no for obvious reasons.

So, would the 50-135 be a bad choice for the types of photos I want? I know it is a great lens but the focal length range seems a bit odd. An 18-200 in the DA* lineup would be great but I don't think Pentax is working on something like that, are they?

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If you want bird shots, 50-135mm is not enough, get the 300mm f4 if you need weatherseal. Trust me, I have been there... that's when I decide to get my M42 400mm.
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If you want bird shots, 50-135mm is not enough, get the 300mm f4 if you need weatherseal. Trust me, I have been there... that's when I decide to get my M42 400mm.
That's what I am worried about. I don't have the budget for two lenses and being stuck carrying around a 300mm would be a nightmare for wider shots. I do prefer to pack lightly when walking about so multiple lenses is sort of a no-no.
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indeed 135 s too short for nature (in most cases) and DA*s inability to close focus don't help here. If you are on the budget look at Tamron 70-200/2.8. Opticaly it's great, focuses closer, it has bigger reach and with 1.5x TC it'll give you 300/4.

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indeed 135 s too short for nature (in most cases) and DA*s inability to close focus don't help here. If you are on the budget look at Tamron 70-200/2.8. Opticaly it's great, focuses closer, it has bigger reach and with 1.5x TC it'll give you 300/4.

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The Tamron isn't weathersealed tho is it?
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The Tamron isn't weathersealed tho is it?
No, it's not.
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Took a short walk on a trail here this afternoon. Had my 50-200 with me. 135 is definately too short for anything on the trees but 50 is too long for anything close. (saw a couple of neat trees, the 50 was too long to get a good photo in.)

Oh how I wish for an 18-200 DA*.
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On a hike, a wide-normal zoom and a telezoom would be most appropriate.
Unless you're purposefully going out to shoot wildlife, a fast long telezoom would be too much to carry around on a walk.

I'd go with a kit lens (or similar) and a 55-300. Enough reach and reasonably capable telezoom esp. in good ambient light.

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I guess I am not going to get what I want in a DA* lens

I guess the next best thing would be to sell my 18-50 and 50-200 and get a DA 18-250...

I wanted weathersealing tho

That being said.. when would someone use the 50-135? Doesn't seem very flexible.
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QuoteOriginally posted by sebberry Quote
I want a good quality lens for nature walks, shooting birds, waves at a beach, etc...

I'm concerned that the 50 is too long and 135 might be a bit too short. More concerned about the 50 being too long tho.
Definitely. Actually, though, I'd question the assumption that changing lenses is impossible just because it might be raining. Do the lens change relatively quickly while putting your back to the wind and leaning over, maybe opening your raincoat to emcompass the camera - shouldn't really be a big deal.

Since you don't normally need f/2.8 outdoors, and the 18-55 and 50-200 ar eboth pretty good stopped down, I'd just get the WR versions of those.

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An 18-200 in the DA* lineup would be great but I don't think Pentax is working on something like that, are they?
The point of the "*" line is the absolute highest image and build quality. The fact that the most recent "*" lenses also happen to be weather sealed is more a side effect of this. Older "*" lenses were *not* sealed. Anyhow, the idea of an 18-200 of "absolute highest image quality" is a contradiction. You don't get the best image quality by creating a superzoom. So a DA*18-200 would be impossible.

On the other hand a simple 18-200 WR - not meant to be "*" quality, but weather sealed - would certainly make a lot of sense. While I know of no specific rumors that anything like that is coming I wouldn't be surprised, either.
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That being said.. when would someone use the 50-135? Doesn't seem very flexible.
Portraits, weddings, concerts, plays, dance and other stage performances, indoor sports - - it's actually an *extremely* useful focal length range. Just not for nature walks.

Of course, one doesn't normally care about about weather sealing in those cases. But like I said, weather sealing isn't really the main point of "*" lenses - the highest optical quality is. And in most of the cases I mentioned, the f/2.8 maximum aperture is the big selling point.
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if you prefer to travel light then the WR kit lens are the only option I believe which is weatherseal. Or you can get one of those raincoat thingy for your camera and lens, they are quite cheap and pack light.
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Some options

I think you have some options. Here's my choice. 3 lenses. 18-55WR or DA*16-50 + short tele prime like DA70, FA77, Tamron 90 etc, + Sigma 100-300 f4. With the last lens being key. I really like how the sigma 100-300 is long enough for most wildlife applications, generally fast, sharp wide open and can be easily complemented by a modest selection of gear. And if you really need to go long you can add the teleconverter to it. The 70-90 range is not that useful for me at the beach. I tend to either really zoom in or really zoom out.

Other than that you could try something around the da55-300 + 1 one other lens.
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Possibly out of your price range, but I haven't seen mention of a DA* 60-250/4

Expensive, though versatile...especially for the long end.

Edit: Pair that with a DA 18-55WR?
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