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11-30-2009, 12:24 PM   #16
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A question to the OP...Why are you specifically interested in Russian lenses as a "normal" option. The reason why I ask is that the best value in the 28mm to 35mm focal length ranges for primes would be one of the following:

K-mount
  • Pentax-K 28/3.5
  • Pentax-K 35/3.5
  • Pentax-M 28/2.8
  • Pentax-M 28/3.5
  • Pentax-A 28/2.8
  • Pentax-A 35/2.8
  • Vivitar 28/2.8
  • Vivitar 28/2.5
M42 Screw Mount
  • S-M-C/Super Takumar 28/3.5
  • S-M-C/Super Takumar 35/2
  • S-M-C/Super Takumar 35/3.5
  • Vivitar 28/2.8
  • Vivitar 28/2.5
Of the above, the Vivitars tend to be less expensive than the Pentax brand. Note that there are many variations of the Vivitar 28mm lens from several different makers. Full details may be found at Photografica. Lenses made by Komine, Kiron, and Tokina (serial numbers starting with 22, 28, and 37) are generally the better performers.

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11-30-2009, 01:16 PM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
A question to the OP...Why are you specifically interested in Russian lenses as a "normal" option. The reason why I ask is that the best value in the 28mm to 35mm focal length ranges for primes would be one of the following:
K-mount
  • Pentax-K 28/3.5
  • Pentax-K 35/3.5
  • Pentax-M 28/2.8
  • Pentax-M 28/3.5
  • Pentax-A 28/2.8
  • Pentax-A 35/2.8
  • Vivitar 28/2.8
  • Vivitar 28/2.5
M42 Screw Mount
  • S-M-C/Super Takumar 28/3.5
  • S-M-C/Super Takumar 35/2
  • S-M-C/Super Takumar 35/3.5
  • Vivitar 28/2.8
  • Vivitar 28/2.5
Of the above, the Vivitars tend to be less expensive than the Pentax brand. Note that there are many variations of the Vivitar 28mm lens from several different makers. Full details may be found at Photografica. Lenses made by Komine, Kiron, and Tokina (serial numbers starting with 22, 28, and 37) are generally the better performers.
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I had the same question.

I paid $70 for an SMC Tak 35F2, and an unbelievable $9 for a Vivitar 28mm F2.5 in M42 mount.

I see no advantage except if there was a specific bokeh or other quality that one of the russian lenses produced that would make me want one, other than the idea of someone being a collector of sorts and wanting a "russian" kit
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
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I had the same question.
I paid $70 for an SMC Tak 35F2, and an unbelievable $9 for a Vivitar 28mm F2.5 in M42 mount.
I see no advantage except if there was a specific bokeh or other quality that one of the russian lenses produced that would make me want one, other than the idea of someone being a collector of sorts and wanting a "russian" kit
Well, that and there is not much in the 28-35mm range as far as Russian glass goes outside the Mir-1 37/2.8. The Mir has its fans, but a Vivitar, or Tak would be a much better and more predictable value.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
unless you have some clairvoyant abilities, where in this thread did the OP mention he bought a 35mmF3.5 for half the price of an F2?
I won't argue with his choice, and maybe his definition of not a lot of money is less than mine but I thought $35 for an SMC Tak 35 F2 was not a lot of money.
With all due respect, you misread my post. I didn't say the OP bought anything. I merely stated that if he opted to buy the 3.5 version, he would save money, without sacrificing quality, as the 3.5 goes for considerably less than an f:2. Not everyone has the good fortune you've had in finding an f:2 for a price comparable to the cost of a 3.5. Usually, condition being equal, the f:2 will sell for more than the very common f:3.5.


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There is also Mir-24 which is a 35mm f/2 lens with very close focusing capabilities.
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QuoteOriginally posted by raymeedc Quote
With all due respect, you misread my post. I didn't say the OP bought anything. I merely stated that if he opted to buy the 3.5 version, he would save money, without sacrificing quality, as the 3.5 goes for considerably less than an f:2. Not everyone has the good fortune you've had in finding an f:2 for a price comparable to the cost of a 3.5. Usually, condition being equal, the f:2 will sell for more than the very common f:3.5.
you're right, I just missed the first word, after being separated by a few phrases. but my point is if you look on ebay right now there are at least 2 35mm F2's for less than or at $70, and it is not that much more than than the 35mm or 37 mm russian lenses,
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
you're right, I just missed the first word, after being separated by a few phrases. but my point is if you look on ebay right now there are at least 2 35mm F2's for less than or at $70, and it is not that much more than than the 35mm or 37 mm russian lenses,
I absolutely agree with you. I wouldn't choose a Russian lens over a sublime Takumar as my first wide angle, especially if, as you've stated, the price difference isn't that much.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Voe Quote
There is also Mir-24 which is a 35mm f/2 lens with very close focusing capabilities.
Thank you Voe. I knew I had forgotten something and the Mir-24 was it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
you're right, I just missed the first word, after being separated by a few phrases. but my point is if you look on ebay right now there are at least 2 35mm F2's for less than or at $70, and it is not that much more than than the 35mm or 37 mm russian lenses,
You mean the two which are in auction, I think they will be sold for much more.

PENTAX 35mm f/2 Super-Takumar M42 Thread - eBay, Lenses, Lenses Filters, Cameras Photo. (end time 05-Dec-09 11:38:52 AEDST)

Asahi SMC Takumar 35mm F:2.0 lens with caps and case - eBay, Lenses, Lenses Filters, Cameras Photo. (end time 06-Dec-09 08:36:04 AEDST)
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Russian Lenses

About 4 months ago I put an e-bay best offer of $5 USD for an Industar 50/2 and got it. That tiny little lens is great! Excellent color rendition and just fun to use! Shipping was 3 times the cost of the lens. Still only $20 spent!

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QuoteOriginally posted by fccwpe Quote
About 4 months ago I put an e-bay best offer of $5 USD for an Industar 50/2 and got it. That tiny little lens is great! Excellent color rendition and just fun to use! Shipping was 3 times the cost of the lens. Still only $20 spent!
That's how it is with most Russian equipment. I bought a couple of Russian cameras a while ago (a Zorki & a Kiev). The cameras were dirt cheap, but the shipping cost much more than the cameras..... irksome. When I needed a lens for my Kiev, I ordered three from the same dealer, as the lenses cost next to nothing & the shipping was the same for three as it was for one. I kept the best of the lot & sold the other two locally to a couple of American buyers who were happy to save on the shipping costs by purchasing from a local seller.
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