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06-11-2007, 04:58 AM   #1
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Which zoom to keep?

I'm rationalizing my SLR and lens collection, trying to get rid of all the lenses I don't really need, and am about to settle on either a Pentax P30N or a Ricoh KR10 Super as the SLR to keep. As a result of inheritance and extras that came with eBay camera purchases, I now have three zooms of similar length, of which I only wish to keep one. But which one?

a) SMC Pentax-M 1:4.5 80-200mm: This was what my father bought with his ME Super back in 1979. Some years later, he dropped it from about a foot off the ground and it hit a stone which dented the zoom 'sleeve' and prevented it from working. He had it replaced on the insurance with the Takumar lens below. When I inherited the kit after his death, I either managed to loosen up the zoom or get it fixed, I can't remember, but it seems to work OK now. I haven't tested it rigorously for optical problems, though.

b) Bayonet Takumar 1:4.5 80-200mm: The replacement for the above. Hardly been used at all. I know the K mount Takumar lenses are reckoned to be inferior to the SMC lenses, but was wondering whether this might be offset by being of a later generation.

c) Miranda 1:4.5-5.6 70-210mm: One which came with a camera I picked up on eBay. Don't know anything about Miranda lenses, but this one seems in very good condition and actually has a very nice feel to it.

So, which one is the keeper, and why?

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I'd go for the Bayonet Takumar if I were you, just because of the condition. The Miranda, I believe, is a generic zoom which you can't expect much of.

You might be better off just picking up a mint M 80-200mm on ebay, though- they run for around $50, sometimes less!

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I just checked the SPLOSdb and there are two versions of M80-200/4.5. The first M version (and also the K version) have been rated as very good but the 2nd version of M has only been rated as OK. Not too sure about the other two.

If I were you, I would probably sell all three and get either A70-210/4 or F70-210/4-5.6 (one for sale at the Marketplace now). Both are excellent lenses.

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I would keep the one with the best image quality.

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I would keep the one with the best image quality.
Ah, yes, but to determine that, I would have to do some rigorous testing, at different focal lengths, different apertures, etc., for all three lenses, something which I don't really have time to do. That's why I wanted to draw on others' experience.
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If I were you, I would probably sell all three and get either A70-210/4 or F70-210/4-5.6 (one for sale at the Marketplace now). Both are excellent lenses.
This makes sense to me. I obviously don't have one which stands out as clearly the best, therefore sell all three and wait for a real good 'un. I think that's the plan I'll go along with!
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Hi J2R

If you don't have film cameras, then get the DA50-200. Otherwise get either the A70-210/4 or F70-210/4-5.6. If you want something longer, have a look at Tamron 70-300 Di LD, Sigma 70-300 APO DG or Pentax 80-320, all of which will work on digital bodies.

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Ah, yes, but to determine that, I would have to do some rigorous testing, at different focal lengths, different apertures, etc., for all three lenses, something which I don't really have time to do. That's why I wanted to draw on others' experience.

Yeah, it takes 15 minutes, but will give the ultimate answer with your exact equipment.

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Yeah, it takes 15 minutes, but will give the ultimate answer with your exact equipment.
It may take 15 minutes with digital, where you can see the results straight away, but not with a film camera, which is what I'm using.
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It may take 15 minutes with digital, where you can see the results straight away, but not with a film camera, which is what I'm using.
Ah, my condolences and apologies.
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Ah, my condolences and apologies.


Actually, I am planning to go to digital at some point, I just decided to squeeze as much out my film stuff as I can for now. I'm putting money in my piggy bank for a K10D, so I can use my 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 135mm and 300mm Pentax primes, as well as the various zooms I have.
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