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12-03-2009, 10:46 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by redneckwes Quote
Another vote for both. + a cheap 135/2.8 for the heck of it, easily found for short $
Translation...get the Vivitar 135/2.8


12-03-2009, 01:05 PM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by freewheeler Quote
Both m 135/3.5 and 200/4.0 are not so much better than
a zoom like A70-210 or m80-200, so I would say:
go for a zoom or a K135/2.5.
I'd agree with respect to choosing a zoom over the 200. But the M135/3.5 is *so* much smaller that this alone could be a reason to choose it over an f/4 zoom, or over a faster/better 135. Depends on your priorities. I was quite happy to replace my old off-brand 135/2.8 with the M135/3.5 as the size & weight difference was pretty substantial; the K135/2.5 would be been larger still. Aside from when I need the extra stop of speed over my DA50-200, the 135 doesn't beat it by all that much in IQ. They are about the same size, but the 135 included the integrated hood, so it still takes up significantly less space. Mostly, though, I take the 135 because I *do* often want that extra stop of speed at this focal length. That isn't nearly so true at 200mm, and the 200mm takes up quite a bit more space than the 50-200.

Of course, if I say I like that extra stop of the 135 over the 50-200, that means I wouldn't be happy with an f/4 zoom - it would be not only a little slower, but also far larger. The 135/2.5, being a full faster, could be worth it, but like I said, it comes down to personal priorities. I'm willing to give up zoom and AF for the stop I gain going from the 50-200 to the M135/3.5, and the smaller size is a nice bonus. I'm not willing to give up that bonus and then pay a size penalty on top to go to a 135/3.5. Others may feel differently.
12-03-2009, 02:13 PM   #18
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I have both M200/4 and the A70-210/4. I tend to agree with most, that 135mm is more usable (always loved my 135/f2.8 macro and minolta xd-5). It should also be significantly lighter, providing at least a couple of stops of SR margin. I suppose one could use the A70-210 as a zoom, picking intermediate focal lengths as needed. I always end up using either the short end or the long end, however.

A used copy of da50-200 isn't much more, can't imagine it having inferior IQ, and its feather-weight size might allow for slower shutter-speed, making up for loss of speed. The only reason I've been resisting the urge to get one or a da55-300 is that I might become too lazy and stop using my da40 and da70.
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Once again, thanks for the advice.

The die has been cast: A sale is in progress from a Forum member for an M 135/3.5. From here a zoom may be in my future.



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