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12-04-2009, 07:53 PM   #31
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We're going further and further away from the essence of SLR photography here and straight into social pointing and shooting. Neither the FA 31 nor the FA 43 on a K-x will do much better than an Optio for those 'going out for a drink' candids taken by friends who don't know where the shutter release button is on the camera.

12-04-2009, 08:05 PM   #32
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I think a far better site for gaving an idea of what can be done with one lens or another is the PPG.
FA31 is more hype thanks to Mr. Mike Johnston and more people are eager to get this legendary super overpriced lens to be "part of it". No one saiys that they can use it at its best. Don't get me wrong both lenses are superb.

Have you consider a pro P&S like a Ricoh GR3? This may suits your needs.
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I wonder which of the DA limiteds is best for taking photos at drunken binges? My guess would be the 40, but who knows?
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Either the 40 for its small size, or the close focusing ability of the 35.

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The DA40 is better than the 43LTD - it's smaller, it doesn't have an aperture ring (WTF is that for?what year is it?? 1988?!? - get with the times pentax!) the only thing I don't like about the DA 40 f/2.8 limited is that it doesn't come will a stubbie holder! - if it did it would be like,totally awesome then I could take great photos of "me" and keep my beer/alcopop cool


*i'm switching the jaded sarcasm off*
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Bringing any kind of DSLR into the sort of beer-soaked parties I used to frequent would be bone-headed - unless it's weather sealed, and you had a nice place to hide it away past a certain point of inebriation.

800b images for Facebook? P&S, baby.


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Hilariously stupid thread.
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QuoteOriginally posted by KayMan Quote
Folks, one clarification: "me" photographs don't mean self-portraits, it means that you hand the camera over to someone nearby and ask them to take a picture. At every party you see these group sessions, where 4-5 people hand their cameras to the least photogenic person and do a 1-minute photoshoot before getting back to binge drinking.

I see some people commenting or ridiculing me for judging a lens' quality from Internet pictures. I am not judging the quality, I am judging the look or the emotional impact. And as @Nesster correctly observed, candy-coated pictures with people or animals tend to get more attention from the masses. Professional or non-professional, print is slowly but surely being replaced by Internet - this will require new approaches to testing and comparing lenses. My approach is no more or no less valid than any pixel-peeper's Imatest analysis.
I'm primarily a portrait photographer. I have no use at all for a 43mm lens. It's too short for most of what I do, too long for everything else.
So the 43 sucks, and there is something wrong in the heads of anyone who likes it.
Or am I missing something here?

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I think people are trolling themselves.

How many are ex/current HiFi junkies? Yes, thought so

So you remember the Linn wars? Judge the system by the emotional impact of the music, and the beat. All the technical measurements are mainly useful to the designer/manufacturer to ensure a basic performance standard, but for the end consumer pornographic masturbatory irrelevancies entirely removed from music itself.

So what, in part, is the Pentax Limited ethos? Judge the lens by the emotional impact of the image. Like a Linn, give it a luxe packaging.
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sorry but cannot agree that the 43ltd makes sense at all. Nope no way, not a good choice at all...doesn't the DA*55 seem to better serve the binge+mirror-snap+binge+ralph-in-the-planter crowd? I mean someone might accidentally hurl on an unsealed FA Limited...ZOIKES!!

BTW, I do GET the humor from the OP, as well as enjoy the view of the anti-pp'er. Ya crack me up while in some way make sense as well. for all we know you have been here forever but who cares...it's funny!! I sure miss those binge days of decades gone by...when a 12-pack and a shot was breakfast and it was a house rule that you had to cook breakfast for whoever you woke up with!! Now a single shot puts me to bed...hahaha...then again I have better legal RxDrugs these days so it all evens out I suppose.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
I'm primarily a portrait photographer. I have no use at all for a 43mm lens. It's too short for most of what I do, too long for everything else.
So the 43 sucks, and there is something wrong in the heads of anyone who likes it.
Or am I missing something here?
freaking PRICELESS....love that one!! niiiiice!


See what video on your DSLR can do...so we all NEED video enabled DSLR's cuz all cameras w/o it suck as well.
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Due to the OP´s experiences I was curious about the fact that the FA 31 would be a bad chioce when drunk, so I got myself plastered last night with all the good and bad it brings. At first, I was a bit hesitating to his ability to judge the pro´s and con´s of these lenses at first due to the somewhat odd topic title with the modern language that you seldom see among experienced photograpers, but I have to say he was spot on. Especially when using the 31 for self portrait of, as the OP put it, "me" as quite a lot of disturbing surroundings were catched in the images. Also, I found the manual focusing ability of the lens to be quite poor at the time. I usually have no problems with this when sober but the drunk-manual-focusing this lens was capable of really sucked.

I am now in the hunt for a 43mm to solve these problems so let´s just see what happens.

Thanks for listening.
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When I do shrooms, nothing beats the Cosina 55 1.2 wide-open.
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I found I prefer a DA35ltd for those "Me" shots:

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KayMan, welcome to the forum. As one of the most reviled of members, I can tell you that irony and satire are lost on most here and logic is always suspect, but don't give up the effort; it is refreshing. As to the lenses, I have had the 43, 50 f/1.4, 70 and various zooms, both Pentax and others, and found they all brought something different to the dance. I now live in the world of the single-lensed with a DA-35 macro; I like the near-normal field of view that most closely represents what I see. All are good, some were better than others, but the DA-35 is the best in giving me the kind contrast I want for object-centric B&W I shoot plus the macro and all-around use.
Of course, as a contrarian, I go to the other extreme from you and assert that an image that is data only, and not printed, doesn't exist, but then that's just my opinion. Again, have fun with it, it's only rock n' roll,
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Haha thanks for the support FH, I went ahead and tagged my remarks with <sarcasm> tag just to make it clear to those who don't get it.

I will give the 35 Macro a shot as well.
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