Originally posted by Biro I agree... it's not whining. It's that many us chose the Pentax system based on the value Pentax was offering us at the time. Now, that economic model/formula is out the window.
It's not just that prices have gone up a bit - or even by $100 for each lens. The price of anything beyond Pentax's kit lenses is now in another class entirely. Many Pentax shooters have been priced out of the market.
And, frankly, I don't want to hear about great deals on 20-year old manual focus lenses. The prices on those lenses are rising as well because of what's happening to the prices of new Pentax lenses.
The FA Limited primes were never cheap, of course, but now most of them are unobtainable for many of us. The same goes for the DA* zooms and primes. No one expects them to be bargain-basement cheap - or even close to the price of kit lenses. But many of us now will never purchase them. I wonder how much longer the DA Limited primes will be even close to affordable - but the God's honest truth is most of them aren't what I really want.
We're not whining - we're photographers who like Pentax and want to stay with Pentax. We're letting the company know how their pricing policy is affecting us and how Pentax is risking the loss of many of its current customers.
Ok...you are not whining.
You are just asking to get what you want at your price.
Seems reasonable. So, I guess the best solution is to consider what your best options are. I sincerely doubt that you are going to do better with another brand, especially considering that you would have to pay a premium for stabilized lenses unless you went with Sony. I don't shop in that sector, so I have no idea what lens options Sony owners have.
As you mention, there is also the matter of non-Pentax glass. Yes, some lenses have increased greatly in price. Probably the worst are the new prices for Russian Jupiter-9 and MC Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye lenses. I bought my J-9 for $85 in spring 2008 and my Zenitar for $135 about a month later. I believe they both peaked at more than double those prices a few months ago. Used prices are also going up. The Helios 44M that I paid $15 for this last summer is hard to find for under $25 anymore.
Some used lenses have actually gone down in price. A good example would be the Pentax-A 50/1.7. I paid $120 for mine in spring of 2007 shortly after the K10D release and felt grateful to get one at that price. I think the going rate now is about 2/3 that amount.
So, again...what are you options? Pentax are not going to drop their prices to 2007 levels.
BTW...I can't afford new Pentax, Sigma, Tamron, or Tokina lenses either. Too expensive. However, I have a bunch of glass not listed in my signature and have spent less than $1700 for lenses in the last 40 years. It might not all be the best glass, but I am generally happy with the results.
Steve