Originally posted by stevebrot As for the "anti-competitive" aspect of the Tokina/Pentax non-compete...The question that comes to my mind is why people expect that Tokina would want to go into direct competition to undercut their biggest OEM customer who also provides substantial engineering and design assistance?
I also thought of the Miranda/Soligor situation, though one must remember that both lines were owned and sold by the same company. I think that the current arrangement between Pentax and Tokina is more similar to the contracts that Vivitar had with its various manufacturers in the 70s and early 80s where Vivitar provided the designs.
Steve
Honda/Acura.
Sure, you can get a Honda with leather, nav, 17" or bigger rims...and although an Acura is a Honda, a Honda is not an Acura. You can't get stuff like voice activation, DVD Audio, HID headlights, extra sound deadening...the list goes on. Those are only things you can get on an Acura...somewhat like Pentax SMC coatings.
You're also going to be invited to the "Reality" social group if anyone ever starts one
Originally posted by yyyzzz Whining is not the purpose.
The purpose is to let Pentax know the displeasure that some of us have felt.
Certainly, some would be perfectly happy with any pricing points. I am not one of them. I have a limited budget.
Certainly, one can move away from Pentax without a sound. That is not some of us would do. We would like to support Pentax as much as possible by buying more Pentax lenses.
I guess that reasonableness is in the eyes of beholder. But no reasonable individual would argue that one must move to other countries if s/he is not happy with some aspects of the US. Following the logic, at least 50% of Americans have to immediately move.
My question is: What are you going to do?
Adding emphasis:
What are
you going to do? There are plenty of complaints on the internet and PF already.
As far as the US/country leaving part...you can either 1) Complain, 2) Leave, 3) Change it and become involved, or 4) Deal with it without complaint.
Originally posted by Just1MoreDave I probably should be counted as one of those fat cats who bought all their lenses at great prices and now are unconcerned about those who came later. I know I remember feeling the same way about the lucky b*st*rds that bought used FA lenses for shockingly low prices in 2003.
Yep! But what can we do but think back...
Originally posted by stevebrot (Has very little current glass...too cheap to buy that plastic stuff...)
Originally posted by LeDave Sometimes I wish Tokina made their 50-135 and 16-50 for Pentax... No SDM and cheaper than the optically same Pentax versions. Now with the money saved, that's a wonderful Nikon D300s with a line-up of Tokina being the same price as K-7 with the same optics.
We did the math a couple days ago, only with a Canon 50D in one of the other myriad threads...