I want a UWA again! Sold mine a while back ...

ivoire · 12-30-2009, 06:42 PM

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new 12-24mm pentax $699. email and ask about shipping. its in Stamford, CT, United States, which is almost Canada

PENTAX DA 12-24MM F4 ED AL ZOOM LENS - NIB - eBay (item 230409562143 end time Jan-06-10 14:27:00 PST)

OR

offer $650

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Pentax-12-24mm-F4...AdIdZ175336069

Last edited by ivoire; 12-30-2009 at 06:52 PM.

**jpzk** · 12-30-2009, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by ivoire

new 12-24mm pentax $699. email and ask about shipping. its in Stamford, CT, United States, which is almost Canada

PENTAX DA 12-24MM F4 ED AL ZOOM LENS - NIB - eBay (item 230409562143 end time Jan-06-10 14:27:00 PST)

OR

offer $650

Pentax 12-24mm F4.0 ED AL (IF) lens Mint in box - Toronto Cameras For Sale - Kijiji Toronto

That is almost too good to be true because most places sell this lens way over $1000.
I am going to check into this right away.
Thanks for the tip!

JP

P.S.: I just sent the seller a PM and hoping this will work out.

Pentaxor · 12-30-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

Wally, that sure is a nice lens but I am looking for sellers in Canada but can't find any. I am sure this costs a fortune too? :ugh:

JP

JP, I'm going to send you a pm where you could buy it cheap. but better hurry while it is on some yearend sale. call them tomorrow asap.

RBellavance · 12-30-2009, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

This Pentax DA 12-24 won't work on a FF camera, will it?

No. Like most DAs, its image circle only covers an APS-C-sized sensor.

**jpzk** · 12-30-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by RBellavance

No. Like most DAs, its image circle only covers an APS-C-sized sensor.

Too bad but it is still quite a nice lens acoording to reviews all over.
This should fit the bill quite nicely.

JP

Laurentiu Cristofor · 12-30-2009, 09:05 PM

I've been thinking about a UWA for some time and I decided to just wait a bit more. The old Sigma you sold was tempting. The DA15 Limited also seems pretty cool and seems the best for CA. Then there is that Samyang 14 that will come out early next year - that would be a FF lens too.

**jpzk** · 12-30-2009, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

I've been thinking about a UWA for some time and I decided to just wait a bit more. The old Sigma you sold was tempting. The DA15 Limited also seems pretty cool and seems the best for CA. Then there is that Samyang 14 that will come out early next year - that would be a FF lens too.

The price will be very low ($300 !!) but there is one major flaw which is working in full light/direct light, causing huge ghosts and flares.
I am not sure if you'd want his sort of images.
But, as the review shows, all the rest is worthy of praise.
It is manual, but that shouldn't affect sales, being an UWA lens with plenty of luminosity/fast.
Thanks for sharing.

JP

asdf · 12-30-2009, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

Just checked the price on this very beautiful lens ... expensive, as expected.
The reviews are mixed, although overall goo/very good.

That is one more to consider, but "used" because of its steep price.

JP

I guess at a steep price, it would disappoint.

Check out Aden camera.

Laurentiu Cristofor · 12-31-2009, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by jpzk

The price will be very low ($300 !!) but there is one major flaw which is working in full light/direct light, causing huge ghosts and flares.

That's why I'm waiting. That lens was initially scheduled for this year, then they postponed it for 2010 - I'm hoping they might tweak it a bit more, so I'll wait to see new reviews after it gets released.

wallyb · 12-31-2009, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

That's why I'm waiting. That lens was initially scheduled for this year, then they postponed it for 2010 - I'm hoping they might tweak it a bit more, so I'll wait to see new reviews after it gets released.

Samyang indeed said they are postponing its release to work on the very issue of flaring/ghosting, mostly by improving the coating on the elements. I'd much rather wait than be disappointed!

Marc Sabatella · 12-31-2009, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by jpzk

Just checked the price on this very beautiful lens ... expensive, as expected.

Not sure where you're looking, but it generally sells for about the same as the 12-24: $700-ish. Expensive, yes, but no more so than the zoom.

jogiba · 12-31-2009, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by jpzk

Nothing specifically bad about it, in fact, it was a good lens.
I sold it for "peanuts" right here on this site too!

... now I sort of miss it.
Anyway, if there is a similar lens out there, which can also be used on FF cameras, that would be nice.

JP

I use a 15mm F2.8 Sigma FF fisheye that looks more like a super wide angle on my Pentax DSLRs.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMCewXHdGs[/yt]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2zPbiwlxyg[/yt]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lAHXJ6G6M[/yt]

**jpzk** · 12-31-2009, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Marc Sabatella

Not sure where you're looking, but it generally sells for about the same as the 12-24: $700-ish. Expensive, yes, but no more so than the zoom.

Marc, which lens are you talking about ... was it the Pentax DA 14 f/2.8, I am getting confused.
I found one good price for this lens:
http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=1550

And I have checked at other sites, for: Pentax 12-24, (high prices)
Such as here:
http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=565_568&products_id=4126
http://www.henrys.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ItemsDisplay?storeId=10001&c...&itemID=157359
I did get a hint from someone here on this forum for a great price for the Pentax 12-24 though ... $669.00 Cdn.

Which of the two would you REALLY go for?

JP

**cheekygeek** · 12-31-2009, 09:35 PM

For me, the wide end of the UWA is the thing that matters. With the 1.5x focal length multiplier, a 10mm becomes a (35mm equiv.) 15mm. A 12mm becomes an 18mm. A 14mm becomes a 21mm.

I think what a lot of us are trying to find is something truly comparable to the excellent Canon 10-22mm f3.5. The Canon has a 1.6x focal length multiplier, so the 10mm = 16mm (35mm equiv. on the Canon). Losing a (35mm equiv.) 2mm AND losing speed (from f3.5 to f4) is a poor bargain, IMHO.

I have seen pictures comparing the new Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 to the old version, and find the new faster version unacceptably softer. I think that for those (like me) needing the 10mm wide end, the older slower Sigma is the best option and at a savings of about $240 (here in the U.S.) I can understand those who like the constant f4 aperture of the Pentax DA 12-24mm and dont' mind giving up the effective 3mm difference on the wide end. I'm just not sure that I'm one of them, especially when it will cost me another $240 over the old Sigma. (Three daughters weddings in 3 years will skew a guy's spending perspective a bit.)
:\

Boris · 12-31-2009, 09:42 PM

If you don't absolutely rule out prime lenses, there are few more interesting options to look at, such as DA 15, DA 14 and even Tokina 17/3.5 if you could find one. The latter being full frame lens...

12-30-2009, 07:32 PM	#17
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by ivoire new 12-24mm pentax $699. email and ask about shipping. its in Stamford, CT, United States, which is almost Canada PENTAX DA 12-24MM F4 ED AL ZOOM LENS - NIB - eBay (item 230409562143 end time Jan-06-10 14:27:00 PST) OR offer $650 Pentax 12-24mm F4.0 ED AL (IF) lens Mint in box - Toronto Cameras For Sale - Kijiji Toronto That is almost too good to be true because most places sell this lens way over $1000. I am going to check into this right away. Thanks for the tip! JP P.S.: I just sent the seller a PM and hoping this will work out. Last edited by jpzk; 12-30-2009 at 07:42 PM.

12-31-2009, 07:36 PM	#28
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by Marc Sabatella Not sure where you're looking, but it generally sells for about the same as the 12-24: $700-ish. Expensive, yes, but no more so than the zoom. Marc, which lens are you talking about ... was it the Pentax DA 14 f/2.8, I am getting confused. I found one good price for this lens: http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=1550 And I have checked at other sites, for: Pentax 12-24, (high prices) Such as here: http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=565_568&products_id=4126 http://www.henrys.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ItemsDisplay?storeId=10001&c...&itemID=157359 I did get a hint from someone here on this forum for a great price for the Pentax 12-24 though ... $669.00 Cdn. Which of the two would you REALLY go for? JP Last edited by jpzk; 12-31-2009 at 07:58 PM. Reason: errors info

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12-30-2009, 06:42 PM	#16
ivoire Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,381	Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. new 12-24mm pentax $699. email and ask about shipping. its in Stamford, CT, United States, which is almost Canada PENTAX DA 12-24MM F4 ED AL ZOOM LENS - NIB - eBay (item 230409562143 end time Jan-06-10 14:27:00 PST) OR offer $650 http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Pentax-12-24mm-F4...AdIdZ175336069 Last edited by ivoire; 12-30-2009 at 06:52 PM.

12-30-2009, 07:34 PM	#18
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by jpzk Wally, that sure is a nice lens but I am looking for sellers in Canada but can't find any. I am sure this costs a fortune too? :ugh: JP JP, I'm going to send you a pm where you could buy it cheap. but better hurry while it is on some yearend sale. call them tomorrow asap.

12-30-2009, 07:52 PM	#19
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by jpzk This Pentax DA 12-24 won't work on a FF camera, will it? No. Like most DAs, its image circle only covers an APS-C-sized sensor.

12-30-2009, 07:58 PM	#20
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by RBellavance No. Like most DAs, its image circle only covers an APS-C-sized sensor. Too bad but it is still quite a nice lens acoording to reviews all over. This should fit the bill quite nicely. JP

12-30-2009, 09:05 PM	#21
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	I've been thinking about a UWA for some time and I decided to just wait a bit more. The old Sigma you sold was tempting. The DA15 Limited also seems pretty cool and seems the best for CA. Then there is that Samyang 14 that will come out early next year - that would be a FF lens too.

12-30-2009, 09:24 PM	#22
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor I've been thinking about a UWA for some time and I decided to just wait a bit more. The old Sigma you sold was tempting. The DA15 Limited also seems pretty cool and seems the best for CA. Then there is that Samyang 14 that will come out early next year - that would be a FF lens too. The price will be very low ($300 !!) but there is one major flaw which is working in full light/direct light, causing huge ghosts and flares. I am not sure if you'd want his sort of images. But, as the review shows, all the rest is worthy of praise. It is manual, but that shouldn't affect sales, being an UWA lens with plenty of luminosity/fast. Thanks for sharing. JP

12-30-2009, 11:43 PM	#23
asdf Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,252	Originally posted by jpzk Just checked the price on this very beautiful lens ... expensive, as expected. The reviews are mixed, although overall goo/very good. That is one more to consider, but "used" because of its steep price. JP I guess at a steep price, it would disappoint. Check out Aden camera.

12-31-2009, 02:54 AM	#24
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	Originally posted by jpzk The price will be very low ($300 !!) but there is one major flaw which is working in full light/direct light, causing huge ghosts and flares. That's why I'm waiting. That lens was initially scheduled for this year, then they postponed it for 2010 - I'm hoping they might tweak it a bit more, so I'll wait to see new reviews after it gets released.

12-31-2009, 07:02 AM	#25
wallyb Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Untied States Photos: Albums Posts: 1,881	Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor That's why I'm waiting. That lens was initially scheduled for this year, then they postponed it for 2010 - I'm hoping they might tweak it a bit more, so I'll wait to see new reviews after it gets released. Samyang indeed said they are postponing its release to work on the very issue of flaring/ghosting, mostly by improving the coating on the elements. I'd much rather wait than be disappointed!

12-31-2009, 11:11 AM	#26
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	Originally posted by jpzk Just checked the price on this very beautiful lens ... expensive, as expected. Not sure where you're looking, but it generally sells for about the same as the 12-24: $700-ish. Expensive, yes, but no more so than the zoom.

12-31-2009, 11:11 AM	#27
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by jpzk Nothing specifically bad about it, in fact, it was a good lens. I sold it for "peanuts" right here on this site too! ... now I sort of miss it. Anyway, if there is a similar lens out there, which can also be used on FF cameras, that would be nice. JP I use a 15mm F2.8 Sigma FF fisheye that looks more like a super wide angle on my Pentax DSLRs. [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMCewXHdGs[/yt] [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2zPbiwlxyg[/yt] [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lAHXJ6G6M[/yt]

12-31-2009, 09:35 PM	#29
cheekygeek Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kearney, Nebraska USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,261	For me, the wide end of the UWA is the thing that matters. With the 1.5x focal length multiplier, a 10mm becomes a (35mm equiv.) 15mm. A 12mm becomes an 18mm. A 14mm becomes a 21mm. I think what a lot of us are trying to find is something truly comparable to the excellent Canon 10-22mm f3.5. The Canon has a 1.6x focal length multiplier, so the 10mm = 16mm (35mm equiv. on the Canon). Losing a (35mm equiv.) 2mm AND losing speed (from f3.5 to f4) is a poor bargain, IMHO. I have seen pictures comparing the new Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 to the old version, and find the new faster version unacceptably softer. I think that for those (like me) needing the 10mm wide end, the older slower Sigma is the best option and at a savings of about $240 (here in the U.S.) I can understand those who like the constant f4 aperture of the Pentax DA 12-24mm and dont' mind giving up the effective 3mm difference on the wide end. I'm just not sure that I'm one of them, especially when it will cost me another $240 over the old Sigma. (Three daughters weddings in 3 years will skew a guy's spending perspective a bit.) :\

12-31-2009, 09:42 PM	#30
Boris Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Israel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 932	If you don't absolutely rule out prime lenses, there are few more interesting options to look at, such as DA 15, DA 14 and even Tokina 17/3.5 if you could find one. The latter being full frame lens...