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12-31-2009, 07:27 AM   #1
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Getting rid of the 16-50 to go to pancakes. Thoughts?

My 16-50 doesn't suffer any issues, but simply said, I find it too heavy to lug around. Because of this, I don't shoot as much.

I'm thinking about selling it (I'll keep my 50-135) and buying a couple of pancakes. Probably 40mm as an all-purpose one and something wide. Your thoughts on this?

12-31-2009, 07:30 AM   #2
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that's what i did. although, there have been times I wish i had 16mm at F2.8 weathersealed :P

For me, though, it was more b/c I like prime lenses that I didnt keep my 16-50.
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How do you find the Sigma? That would be a perfect FL for me...
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I have been thinking of going to prime lenses myself. All I used to have 30 years ago and still got a few M series and even now find them astonishingly good even compaired to modern zooms. I will be interested how you go on.

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I was given a pre-release 16-50 to play with somewhat before Pentax started shipping them.
I was quite impressed with it, which takes a lot for me. I don't like zoom lenses on general principals.
It didn't sway me though.
My short lens kit is a 15 LTD, 21 LTD and 40 LTD.
I suspect,but can't confirm, that the three lenses combined are smaller than the 16-50..
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I checked the numbers for the two zooms and the 21 and 40 primes on the Pentax site and came up with an interesting look. Carrying a 21, 40 and 50-135 kit vs. a 16-50 and 50-135 kit would give you only about a 25% reduction in weight and that's just for the lenses.

With the money you might lose when selling the 16-50 you might find older 28 or 35 and 105 primes giving you some options for selecting a good two lens kit for any situation.
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I'm all for your plan to buy the pancakes, but I'd consider keeping the 16-50, or perhaps getting a different wide angle zoom. I love my small prime lenses, and they do add a great dose of portability. But sometimes the versatility of a wide angle zoom very much comes in handy. By selling the 16-50, you could buy the Tamron 17-50 which is smaller and lighter, or the Pentax 16-45, or Sigma 18-50, or maybe even the new 18-55 WR kit lens.

Back to the pancakes, I love my DA 40 and DA 70. I may grab the DA 21 at some point to complete the set. Such great lenses.
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I have the 16-50mm, 50-135mm, and the 40mm pancake.

If I want to travel light, I'll grab the pancake and throw my point and shoot (Panasonic ZS3: 12x zoom) in my pocket. Otherwise the weight doesn't bother me from the DA* lenses.

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I used to use the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 Macro lens, but now I only use my two pentax primes. DA35mm ltd and the DA70mm ltd. I don't carry anything else with me anymore and I've not regretted it once so far. I'm going to get the 15mm ltd as well so as to get a wider field of view, but apart from that I really don't feel that anythings missing.
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Herzzreh wrote: I'm thinking about selling it (I'll keep my 50-135) and buying a couple of pancakes.
Just be careful not to get syrup on your camera gear!!!
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I had the 16-50 for a while. Personally, I found it too bulky and a bit cumbersome. I sold it and went back to the DA 16-45.

I am a zoom user. The only prime I own is the Tamron 90mm f/2.8 Macro lens.
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My problem is the 15 ltd, I am not seeing any 'wow' from this lens and it is not cheap. My 12-24 is near priceless so i go 12-24, 35 and 77 when running light.
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I have and use Pentax 15, 21, 43, and 77mm primes. I'm very happy with this kit. On the other hand, my wife uses only one lens, the DA 55-300mm. She does not like wide angle or primes. Different strokes for different folks. My advice to you would be to buy either the DA 21mm or the DA 40mm and use it exclusively for a period of time. I think this will show you the advantages and limitations of prime shooting. You can proceed from there in keeping the 16-50mm or selling it and acquiring more primes. If I had just one lens, it would be the 43mm ltd, but the 40 is nearly as good, I hear.
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QuoteOriginally posted by B Grace Quote
I checked the numbers for the two zooms and the 21 and 40 primes on the Pentax site and came up with an interesting look. Carrying a 21, 40 and 50-135 kit vs. a 16-50 and 50-135 kit would give you only about a 25% reduction in weight and that's just for the lenses.
Well, sure, but you kind of put a limiter on things here by keeping the 50-135 in both cases - even just chucking the 16-50 entirely would only give you about a 40% reduction (rough guess). Try replacing the 50-135 too if you want more weight savings.

My basic kit is 15-28-40-70-135, with the 15, 40, and 70 the DA Limiteds. Someday I may replace the M135/3.5 with an M120/2.8, or something else if Pentax puts out new DA lens in that focal length range. Also might replace the M28/2.8 with something more modern some day - perhaps *slightly* shorter (but not as short as 21). But this works pretty well for me.

BTW, I've moved this to the SLR Lens forum, where it makes much more sense.

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12-31-2009, 10:34 AM   #15
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By the way, this little OP/Tech double lens mount makes it easy to carry two dismounted primes in the space of one zoom lens.

OP/TECH USA | Double Lens Mount Cap f/ Pentax Lenses | 1101251
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