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01-07-2010, 12:25 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nesster Quote
a M42 bod speaks sweet nothings to a M42 lens in native language
I've noticed that too

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You're worse than I ever dreamed. Every focal length from every maker?

I would settle for the fastest (relitively) at each length from any one maker and I thought I was in trouble?
no not ever maker every line Pentax makes Takumar, K, M, FA, F,DA then some mix and match from other manufacturers
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no not ever maker every line Pentax makes Takumar, K, M, FA, F,DA then some mix and match from other manufacturers
Ok, now I understand.

once upon a time, someone posted a question "what is the ideal lens kit" to which I responded one of everything pentax ever made.

I think this is what you mean. it's just you are missing A, and you have not defined the difference between Takumar, Super takumar and SMC takumar. I could double your ideal kit with this definition
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Do I have LBA or have I simply lost my mind?

Yes. Along with the rest of us.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
...In using these, and my one real digression into LBA, a Super Tak 85mm F1.9, I have found that using the M42 lenses has some advantages over K mounts with respect to having Av exposure mode...

When you consider the K mounts are all fast or very fast, have I gone mad in wanting the same in M42?
Based on just this logic, yes, you've gone mad. It would be more logical to acquire A or later lenses for that purpose, at least when there is an A lens available. (At 28mm, there are some options, but at other focal lengths, not really.)

But as you can tell by the other replies and your own purchases, there's a lot more than logic behind acquiring new lenses. I just got a Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 150mm f4 today, for really no reason at all.
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But as you can tell by the other replies and your own purchases, there's a lot more than logic behind acquiring new lenses. I just got a Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 150mm f4 today, for really no reason at all.
except that it is an unusual focal length
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How about bending the aperture lever on your k-mount lenses a little outward ?
How about taking the back off and removing that lever (if reversable) ?
How about just pinching off that lever ?

There you have it , your k-mount AV-mode lens.

Also, please remember that you will not get a lens as fast in M42 as in K-mount, cause the back diameter is a little narrower.

After the purgatory of LBA (or was it the madness already?) there is only severe lens hacking left for some people to get to paradise :-)

Hope that helps,
Georg
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LBA = MADNESS !!!

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I have a simple formula to control LBA madness....

You should pick up these:
Life is not complete without the full line of Takumars, which includes the presets, autos, supers and SMCs (my life is not yet complete)
K mounts - still working on those.....in a fit of real madness, I sold my K15 Asp... (to be rectified)
A few DA* lenses as it rains here (strictly a "common sense" purchase)
The DA 12-24
The FA Ltds

Now the sensible part...
I don't buy
Ms
As
FAs (other than the limiteds)

See....it's all in control, well thought out lens hoarding.

oops...I just at lunch today picked up a M42 Tele-Tokina 135/2.8.....oh the humanity!
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I have a simple formula to control LBA madness....

You should pick up these:
Life is not complete without the full line of Takumars, which includes the presets, autos, supers and SMCs (my life is not yet complete)
K mounts - still working on those.....in a fit of real madness, I sold my K15 Asp... (to be rectified)
A few DA* lenses as it rains here (strictly a "common sense" purchase)
The DA 12-24
The FA Ltds

Now the sensible part...
I don't buy
Ms
As
FAs (other than the limiteds)

See....it's all in control, well thought out lens hoarding.

oops...I just at lunch today picked up a M42 Tele-Tokina 135/2.8.....oh the humanity!
Oh god! When I think I've a handle on things, I read a post like this. Hysterical

I don't have a lens buying problem. I can buy them just fine. However, I do have a cash flow problem.
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No, Lowell, you have not gone mad. It is a perfectly logical in a strange sort of way.

As for me...I have definitely gone mad. I have two pristine M42 bodies (Ricoh Singlex TLS and Mamiya/Sekor 1000 DTL) and thought that it would be nice to put together a representative 1970 M42 kit (28, 50, 135, and 200). Fair enough, except that I already had most of the range covered with a couple Tamron Adaptall-2 lenses. Enter the skewed logic of LBA. All I need is a decent M42 28mm and the kit is complete. Please, don't anyone suggest a vintage flash.

Then there is the Ricoh debacle. I bought a full kit for my Ricoh XR7 back in the day composed of Tamron 28mm, Pentax-M 50/1.7, and 70-150 zoom. Sounds good, eh? Not good enough, however, for the demons of LBA/CBA. About this time last year, I decided I needed a cheap backup for the XR7 and got a Ricoh XR-2s. Still sounds good, except that seeing the stock XR Rikenon 50/1.7 on the XR-2s created a desire to have a matching copy for the XR7. I then saw an auction for a Ricoh power winder 2 and dedicated flash to the fit the XR7. Fortunately good sense intervened before I got one of both for the XR-2s! (The flash actually fits both cameras...)

It was about then that I noticed that my camera shelf had a glaring omission. Despite the fact that my stuff is VERY Pentax oriented, I had no Pentax film cameras. $200 later, I had a nicely CLA'd KX with Pentax-K 55/1.8. Why the 55 when I already have the M 50/1.7? Who knows?! I am insane!

This last spring saw purchase of the Pentax-FA 77/1.8 Limited despite the fact that I already have the Jupiter-9. Now the J-9 is doing duty with the M42 kit. The Helios 44M 58/2 was purchased about the same time. It is not like I am lacking for quality fast 50s or anything. At that point things started to quiet down. I had plenty of toys to play with and lots of film to shoot. A temporary remission I guess.

Come winter, the gray days have taken their toll and CBA is on the rise with the help of its old comrade, Nostalgia. My first camera was a Yashica Lynx 1000 rangefinder. That camera was lost to theft, but I always thought it would be nice to have another one. I was bored one day and did an eBay search for "Yashica Lynx". Bad mistake...the prices run cheap. Apparently a ton of these cameras were sold through the PX to soldiers serving in Vietnam. They are now surfacing in estate sales and such. Long story short...
  • 3 Lynx 5000 (1 for parts and 2 keepers)
  • 1 Lynx 5000E (sent back to seller...not as described)
  • 1 Lynx 1000 (not here yet...probably a keeper)
I am now developing a degree of knowledge of Lynx tear-down and repair in the anticipation of making at least one of these 4 Yashicas a functional user.

I am mad! I tell you! Mad!

Steve

P.S. Three of my Lynx have very nice complete cases. One even has the original lens chamois...

P.P.S. In case the Lynx meters are all unrepairable, I bought a Gossen Luna-Lux meter. I then figured that while I was spending money, I should get the meter on the 1000 DTL repaired and the body CLA'd ($125 for a camera that is only worth $50 on a good day). This is madness! Why do I need the meter working on the 1000 DTL? I just got the Gossen! The dual spot/average feature is not that cool...
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QuoteOriginally posted by smc Quote
I have a simple formula to control LBA madness....

You should pick up these:
Life is not complete without the full line of Takumars, which includes the presets, autos, supers and SMCs (my life is not yet complete)
K mounts - still working on those.....in a fit of real madness, I sold my K15 Asp... (to be rectified)
A few DA* lenses as it rains here (strictly a "common sense" purchase)
The DA 12-24
The FA Ltds

Now the sensible part...
I don't buy
Ms
As
FAs (other than the limiteds)

See....it's all in control, well thought out lens hoarding.

oops...I just at lunch today picked up a M42 Tele-Tokina 135/2.8.....oh the humanity!
so when are you going to let go of that other 135/2.5 copy?
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Yes...I've been contemplating that....how to bring it up I mean. How to I decide which one and how to I broach the subject with it...it's going to be most upset with me. (Sorry...it's already gone)
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How about bending the aperture lever on your k-mount lenses a little outward ?
How about taking the back off and removing that lever (if reversable) ?
How about just pinching off that lever ?

There you have it , your k-mount AV-mode lens.

Also, please remember that you will not get a lens as fast in M42 as in K-mount, cause the back diameter is a little narrower.

After the purgatory of LBA (or was it the madness already?) there is only severe lens hacking left for some people to get to paradise :-)

Hope that helps,
Georg
Georg

I have not reached that point myself. I refuse to hack a pentax lens. I will however hack, mutilate and destroy any Nikon, canon, minolta lens I can find and convert into a stopped down K mount.

I have 2 at present, a Kiron 28mm F2 (MD mount) and a vivitar 24mmF2 (made by Kiron) both converted to K mount and able to maintain infinity focus, with a little work and use of a flanged M42 adaptor for the K mount.
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I have a simple formula to control LBA madness....

You should pick up these:
Life is not complete without the full line of Takumars, which includes the presets, autos, supers and SMCs (my life is not yet complete)
K mounts - still working on those.....in a fit of real madness, I sold my K15 Asp... (to be rectified)
A few DA* lenses as it rains here (strictly a "common sense" purchase)
The DA 12-24
The FA Ltds

Now the sensible part...
I don't buy
Ms
As
FAs (other than the limiteds)

See....it's all in control, well thought out lens hoarding.

oops...I just at lunch today picked up a M42 Tele-Tokina 135/2.8.....oh the humanity!
I can understand M's because in my mind there are very few Ms better than Ks (except maybe the 400 F5.6), but i am not so sure about As.
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