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01-12-2010, 02:06 AM   #31
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Thanks for reminding me - M.O. Trio

That reminds me I need to put my M-O trioplan on my K-x and see what it can do...

I think the Tair 11a is not getting represented enough. I like it a lot better than my smc tak a super tak 135's. Much more interesting.

And my CZ Super-Dynarex 135 f4 deserves a mention.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
What about the Meyer Trioplan V 100/2.8?
I was gonna say it but that's not 135mm .-)

But hey there's a 135 triplet, Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135mm f/4.0-22.0 FM=120cm EL=3 (Short Telephoto) 1949 #56 - M42
Maybe as funky as the Trioplan ?

Artlimited also has a 135/2 Soligor listed,
Soligor Soligor C/D 135mm f/2.0-22.0 FM=180cm EL=6 (Short Telephoto) #469 - M42

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Another vote for the Tair 11A. Tried a SMC M 135/3.5 and a 135/4 Jupiter, Tair is simply in a different league Here's a post from the Soviet lenses club with a few samples
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Here is an interesting thread related to 135mm lenses.

Manual Focus Lenses :: View topic - The most beautiful 135mm lens

01-12-2010, 09:39 AM   #35
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Here is an interesting thread related to 135mm lenses.

Manual Focus Lenses :: View topic - The most beautiful 135mm lens
interesting thread, thanks,

Looks like the CZ Sonnar MC is the winner, unless the "other" category is all one lens.
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OK so I decided on an auto Rikenon 135 F2.5 for $35.

I will post shots when I get it,

I have updated my first page options list to show all the 135's I came across since I started this search, I may go back to it when I decide i like or don;t like the Rikenon lens.
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got the rikenon lens and hate it.

indoors and with flash it is OK, and at night it is OK but in daylight it is crippled by flare, manifesting itself as a big bright donut about the size of the sensor, that gets worse as you stop down.

the good news is it only cost $30.

My disappointment was solved however, with a Tele-Lentar 135 F2.8 preset, with 16 blade circular aperture.

see test shot below: F5,6 with flash on *istD, Focusing on my *istD is not the easiest because there is no split image, but the lens is suitibly sharp (hard to show when re-sizing)

I think this is a winner. at least ntil LBA rears its ugly head again (i keep getting wispers about a 135 F1,8 vivitar being available)

note reviews of both lenses added to the data base
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Does it have a hood? That can make a big difference on some of those m42 lenses.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
... in daylight it is crippled by flare, manifesting itself as a big bright donut about the size of the sensor, that gets worse as you stop down. ...
query: does that len's rear element have a flat surface? the Tamron 2.5/90 sometimes has central "hot spot" due to reflections bouncing between flat rear element and reflective sensor surface; hood no effect on that.
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Does it have a hood? That can make a big difference on some of those m42 lenses.
it has an internal one and is useless, the one I made 130mm long and 70 mm in diameter (wrapped around a short screw in hood) was fairly but not 100% effective. as I said, OK indoors, OK with flash, OK at night useless in daylight.

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query: does that len's rear element have a flat surface? the Tamron 2.5/90 sometimes has central "hot spot" due to reflections bouncing between flat rear element and reflective sensor surface; hood no effect on that.
I need to look, I am also suspecting the rear element. I don't perceive the issue when looking through the finder.

p.s took a look, seems flat or almost flat, if anything slightly concave, but not convex

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Ok, a while back I asked the forum members a question

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/86039-do-i-hav...t-my-mind.html

I decided to look at building an M42 Kit, and happened onto a really nice takumar 200mm F3.5 to go with the supertakumar 85mm F1.9.

I had already most of the low focal lengths (24 F2.5, 28 F2.5 and 35 F2) but the real hole in the kit now that I havbe a 200 is something between 85 and 200, i.e. a 135.

I do not want an SMC takumar F2.5 because I feel that will be too similar to my SMC Pentax 135 F2.5 so I am looking for another high quality 135, that may be something a little different.

Let's here the ideas

Edit note added as people have responded:

In no particular order here are the options so far to post 33:

- Auto Chinon f2.8/135 6 blade 1.5 m min focus
- Contax Sonnar 135/2.8,
- Sonnar - Carl Zeiss Jana DDR 135/F3.5 MC
- Jena 3.5
- CZ Super-Dynarex 135 f4
- Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135mm f/4.0-22.0
- Eyemik/Porst 135mm f/1.8
- Enna Munchen Tele Ennalyt 135mm f2.8
- Focal MC Auto 135 F2.8
- HANIMEX Auto 2.8/135
- Jupiter 11A 135mm F4
- Jupiter 37 (A, AM)
- Leica 135/2.8,
- tele-lentar 135/2.8
- Mamiya Sekor 135mm f2.8 (including the SX version and earlier version)
- Meyer-Optik Orestor 135mm f/2.8
- OPTICAM 2.8/135 preset
- Pentacon 135 2.8 preset 15 blade
- Pentacon 2.8/135, any version
- Auto Reikenon 135mm F2.8
- schneider kodak retina tele xenar 135mm f4 DKL
- Sears 135mm F2.8
- SEARS AUTO EE 135MM F/2.8
- Steinheil Munchen Auto-D Tele Quinar 135mm f2.8
- Soligor 135mm f1.8
- Soligor Soligor 135mm f/2.0-22.0
- ASAHI KOGAKU TELE-TAKUMAR 135mm f3.5
- S-M-C Takumar 135mm f/3.5.
- S-M-C Takumar 6-element 135mm f/2.5. It can't possibly get any better than this.
- Takumar, pre-set 3.5/135, 5 lens/4 groups
- Auto-Takumar 3.5/135, 5 lens/4 groups
- Super-Takumar, first version of 3.5/135, 5 lens/4 groups
- Super-Takumar, 2.5/135,
- Tair-11a 133mm F2.8
- Tair-11-2 135mm f/2.8 (rare black version).
- Vivitar Series 1 135 F2.3
- Vivitar auto 3.5/135 6 (SN 41)
- Vivitar 2.8/135 chrome and black (sn 10)
- Vivitar auto telephoto 2.8/135 6 blade(Komine),


Other options/focal lengths
Meyer Trioplan V 100/2.8?
Tele-Takumar 5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 6.3/300
S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105
S-M-C Takumar 2.8/120
S-M-C Takumar 4/150
I've owed some ones of the list. Auto Chinon f2.8/135 - I've sold it very quickly, shots @2.8 were too soft and a bit blurry, I prefer the crisp sharpness Sears 135mm F2.8 seemed being the same as the Chinon, sold it as well. I've ended up with the MC CZJ 135/3.5, it's my love - it makes crispy images wide open, but as for mechanics, you need to be careful as it's not very reliable. I owe some other CSZ lenses and they required CLA right after I had bought them. They had stuck diaphragm blades because of lubricant hardened (that's a usual issue with CZJ lenses after the long storage). But CLA is pretty cheap for them though and required only once
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"- S-M-C Takumar 6-element 135mm f/2.5. It can't possibly get any better than this."

M42, I agree! This 2nd version has the Double-gauss lens formula. The 1st version is an Ernostar.

- Pentacon 135 2.8 preset 15 blade
- Pentacon 2.8/135, any version

These are Sonnars.

I have all three -- each has its uses, differences are mostly seen in bokeh. I think the Sonnar produces the smoothest bokeh. The Ernostar and Double-gauss both produce 'bird's eye' bokeh, but I think the Double-gauss is a sharper lens.

Note that Asahi Pentax changed from Ernostar to Double-gauss, both for the new S-M-C 1.8/85 and the 2nd S-M-C 2.5/135.
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Now that this thread has been revived I should mention my article Three 135mm Lens Recommendations, which was essentially a summary of second-hand information from this and other places. The results?
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR MC S 1:3.5 F=135mm
Vivitar Series 1 135mm 1:2.3
Pentacon 2.8/135 Preset

Of these, I got the Pentacon and followed up with the Vivitar 135/2.8 Auto Telephoto Close Focusing, which took a while to find. It is my favourite, since having the close focus ability saves me carrying a macro as well. I prefer a compact kit and so don't shoot with it much, but there is absolutely no other down-side to the Vivitar.
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