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01-14-2010, 11:29 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Blue Quote
That's definitely a good choice. The prices are competing with the Da 35 at the moment though. However it is faster than the DA but then the DA can close focus to 1:1 like a true macro which can have advantages at car shows etc. I don't know why Pentax don't update the FA 35mm f2 rather than sink it unless it is because of the legendary FA 31mm ltd.
I believe Pentax is doing this because the FA35 was made for a different purpose. in a car show, the FA35's bokeh at f2 is more appropriate. I'm not saying the FA31 can't do this, but you need to stop down to achieve such. in this case, the FA35 has the edge. yes, I do feel that the FA35 needs an MKII. let's say FA35/1.4, that would be a dream.

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To control harsh reflections on bright days more than anything really.
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the FA35's bokeh at f2 is more appropriate
Why is that?


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Why is that?


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because it has a more solid bokeh rendering. you are not shooting portraits here, you are shooting cars.

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ahem, portraits OF cars.
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Years ago using a Super Program I used to go to car shows and take pictures.
I always used the Pentax F-zoom 28-70 with macro, lens. It had enough range to take a shot of many cars,or if I couldn't get close enough, and also a close up of an engine or a section of the paint job on the car.
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Looking through my shots from last year, all were with a DA21mm or Kiron 28mm f/2. The DA21 was mostly at f/4 and the Kiron was mostly at f/2.8. The hall was pretty crowded, so I never found a need for anything longer than the 28mm. ISO 800 for most of the shots.
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QuoteOriginally posted by attack11 Quote
ahem, portraits OF cars.
you cant be serious. you know how photos of cars are done and for what purpose in general.

and spare me with the literal use of portraits in a sentence. otherwise shoot some portraits of a blank wall.


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hehe well there's car shots .. and then there's good car shots. i find the good ones aren't that diff than shooting a person.

it's really more of a still life scenario, but at a car show you don't control anything so then it's more like portrait or street photog.

creativity wins in the end.
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QuoteOriginally posted by attack11 Quote
hehe well there's car shots .. and then there's good car shots. i find the good ones aren't that diff than shooting a person.

it's really more of a still life scenario, but at a car show you don't control anything so then it's more like portrait or street photog.

creativity wins in the end.
to each his own.
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I wouldn't assume you "need" f/2.8. The cars are presumably not going anywhere, so you don't need high shutter speeds to combat motion blur. If tripods are allowed, you don't need fast shutter speeds to combat camera shake. And with the sort of wide angle lenses being suggested here, you don't really need very high shutter speed to combat shake. And I assume an auto show is better lit than, say, the average jazz club. Not to say f/2.8 wouldn't be nice, but it hardly seems a requirement.
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I agree with the Polarizer

I mistakenly didn't take one to cycle in Toronto and I got all kinds of reflections off the chrome and body work from the lighting. I have to recommend the 12-24mm as I find you are often shooting at f8 to get sufficient DOF. That's my 2 cents (though I think the 15mm limited would be good too).
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QuoteOriginally posted by pakuchn Quote
Why do you say "circular polariser is needed for sure if outdoors"?
Without a CP you'll often have too much glare coming off the car, and even worst... the glass.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
I wouldn't assume you "need" f/2.8. The cars are presumably not going anywhere, so you don't need high shutter speeds to combat motion blur.
Most of my shots were at F4 1/30, and it worked very well at 21mm. The hall was well lit.
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#1 16-45,I like the 16-45, a bit distorted at the wide end but fun to use. #2 DA 35mm Limited, I just like the way the DA 35 portray's the car. #3 FA 43mm Limited, And if you got the room from your subject the FA 43 does a great job. As others said be sure to have a CP on hand, you'll need it in full sun to control the glare.
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