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View Poll Results: Should I be a good Pentax choirboy and buy a DA 15 Limited or buy the Sigma 10-20mm
DA 15mm F4 Limited 3743.02%
DA 12-24mm F4 1315.12%
Sigma 10-20mm F3.5 1011.63%
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 2630.23%
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02-23-2010, 12:57 AM   #16
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the DA12-24 isn't that bad either. at 24mm, it could illustrate what the DA14/15mm can attain at close focus with the help of it's extra reach.



note: I could had gone closer with this shot, but I liked it this way. at 24mm, f5.6 is the magic number for such subjects.

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Tokyoso:

Read lots of reviews

Look at a lot of pictures from all the lenses you are considering

Decide what you can afford

Buy whichever lens you most want, staying within your budget.

Best of Luck!
02-23-2010, 06:32 AM   #18
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Thanks all,

Right now I'm leaning towards the Sigma 10-20 f4. It is bulkier, but I do have another pancake to make some room for a big lens in bag. The limited lenses feel real nice to me actually.

photozone data reviews for DA15 and SIG10-20 seems to show that the zoom lens is quite competitive at 14mm in sharpness. DA15 excells in center sharpness but the 10-20 makes up for it on the borders, while offering a nice zoom range.

Is there anything else that makes the DA15 standout from the Sigma 10-20 other than perhaps better photography skills?


Thx again
02-23-2010, 07:15 AM   #19
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QuoteOriginally posted by tokyoso Quote
Thanks all,

Right now I'm leaning towards the Sigma 10-20 f4. It is bulkier, but I do have another pancake to make some room for a big lens in bag. The limited lenses feel real nice to me actually.

photozone data reviews for DA15 and SIG10-20 seems to show that the zoom lens is quite competitive at 14mm in sharpness. DA15 excells in center sharpness but the 10-20 makes up for it on the borders, while offering a nice zoom range.

Is there anything else that makes the DA15 standout from the Sigma 10-20 other than perhaps better photography skills?


Thx again
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Let's see, I think everything's been covered, but...

I think that if you were to shoot with them together in a lot of different situations, you'd notice a different color cast, but that can be fixed in PP, so that's probably not much of an issue.

In handling the DA 15, it occurs to me that this lens could last for 50 years. I doubt many zooms will last 50 years, although Sigma makes sturdy zooms of late. Of course, K-mount might not last 50 years, so that could be a moot point.

Flare control - shooting into the sun with the DA 15 is a pleasure.

But really, it's the size, and the fact that if you're shooting Pentax, slowly building a collection of Limiteds is something that a lot of in-the-know Canon & Nikon shooters would love to be able to do. The size/IQ/price ratio is unique. It's very nice to snap around the house at 15mm without having it be a big intrusive kit, not to mention the ease of carrying it out of the house on walkabouts.

But the Sigma is a great option to have, I doubt anyone would really be unhappy with it.


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02-23-2010, 11:34 AM   #20
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This has nothing to do with brand loyalty or whatever. It comes down to the numbers.
There are only 3 lenses that give you corrected 10mm FOV. One of them is not on your list and I understand that.
Out of those remaining two, if you need f3.5 than go for the newer version. Personaly I think that HSM on this lens absolutely doesn't matter (but then I very rarely focus this thing as it's usually on 10mm f4-11 and 1m mark MF).
Again, personal choice:
I have 10-20/4-5.6 and 24/2.8 to serve lowlight indoors.
These two lenses together are cheaper than any of the other options you mentioned.
So it's clear my what I voted for...
My second choice would be DA12-24. I think I could live with 12mm and f4 on "long" end, though once you have experienced 10mm corrected, it's hard to go back to anything else!

Good luck choosing... it's a tough cookie ('ve been there, 've done that)
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just buy the siggy 10-20 old version,its a great lens you will love the flexability of the zoom aswell.
why move when you can zoom zoom zoom.
i have attained some brilliant pics with my copy as have many others on this forum.
i also dont think you would notice too much in picture quality unless you pixel peep.
but im sure the pentax versions da 15 and 12-24 have better contrast.
but if you use lightroom or photoshop save your $
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thanks for the tips, I had wanted something wide to use outdoors while versatile enough to bring to the dinner table. I assume by 3 you meant Tamron 10-24mm as the other...
I'll have to check 'em all out at a shop or something...
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The DA 15mm Limited design is just too tempting..

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QuoteOriginally posted by rustynail925 Quote
The DA 15mm Limited design is just too tempting..
i know what ya mean.. having second thoughts about sigma 10-20 already
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Looking at the outputs of these lenses w/out pixel peeping the IQ is gonna be pretty much the same.. The only difference is looking at that gem mounted in your camera and that great feel to it makes you wanna take more photos, plus the size and weight against the extra focal length that you can get.
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mmm, up to you, I have owned both (currently the DA15) and can say the 10-20 is a wonderful lens. Optically I would say they are actually very close, slightly different strengths/weaknesses but neither had enough problems to bother me.

For me it all came down to size, the 10-20 I didn't always take with me, the DA15 I do.. It is just so small and light I see no reason not to always pack it.. A lens in the bag is worth infinately more than one sitting at home when out shooting..
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Lance,

Ignoring, speed, size differences, which takes better photos?

DA 14mm or DA 15mm Limited?

Cheers,

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is this done with some type of star cross filter?

I saw another member's post here with that similar star cross off of a reflection in a lake or something.



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QuoteOriginally posted by tokyoso Quote
is this done with some type of star cross filter?

I saw another member's post here with that similar star cross off of a reflection in a lake or something.
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No, that's the native flare response from the lens. A 14-point star means 7 blades, and it's always a tight star (tighter with smaller aperture) when the light source is not behind a haze, like the sun behind clouds.

Examples:





Behind a cloud layer, no star (of course)

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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
No, that's the native flare response from the lens. ...
Examples: ...
Wow, really amazing flare control. The small size is another powerful draw, as is the superb contrast. I may have to pick up one of these gems (even though I voted for the DA 12-24mm).

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