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02-24-2010, 03:45 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
I hope it is... my FA 50 1.4 apparently is worth over twice what I paid for it.


Hopefully it will soon be worth enough that I can trade it for a FA 77
The only problem with that is that both lenses are probably increasing at the same rate.

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When is the lens prices going down? any idea?
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When is the lens prices going down? any idea?
They'll go down after the US dollar strengthens against the Yen.
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QuoteOriginally posted by wasser Quote
They'll go down after the US dollar strengthens against the Yen.

.....and nobody knows when that is going to happen. I think the price of the FA 31mm is a joke. I don't care how good it is. I am trying to save for the Fa 43mm, but I don't know if I will be able to stomach the price when I finally have the money to pull the trigger on that lens.

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prices went up in japan, too
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When is the lens prices going down? any idea?
I really don't think they will go down .....
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Supply and demand

The only way these prices will go down, or at least not climb up, is if the supply exceeds the demand, both the new and used lenses markets.

For example, if no one bought a used DA* 50-135mm f2.8 for $750, since a new lens is only slightly more (less than 10%), then used lenses would drop in price otherwise they wouldn't sell. And if more and more people bought used lenses because they are significantly lower than the new lenses, vendors will be forced to at least not increase prices, or offer deals to get rid of their stock

Of course, its all just hypothesis
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QuoteOriginally posted by EsBee Quote
The only way these prices will go down, or at least not climb up, is if the supply exceeds the demand, both the new and used lenses markets.

For example, if no one bought a used DA* 50-135mm f2.8 for $750, since a new lens is only slightly more (less than 10%), then used lenses would drop in price otherwise they wouldn't sell. And if more and more people bought used lenses because they are significantly lower than the new lenses, vendors will be forced to at least not increase prices, or offer deals to get rid of their stock

Of course, its all just hypothesis
It worked for me. I started buying lenses when they seemed to be really cheap. I bought a lot. Then Pentax released the K10D and K100D. Used lenses were in demand, and I made some money. The K-x seems to be about 10x as popular as the K100D.

I think this is also the worst time of the year for US used lens prices. A lot of people got new cameras for Christmas. Winter limits photo opportunities and increases time spent shopping for lenses on eBay. Tax refunds allow for extra purchases. Wait for July, when everyone has better things to do than search eBay.

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I went to a used camera shop in December in Providence, RI, and bought a Super Takumar 50mm 1.4 for $45

I went back in there this week and was looking at an M 28mm 2.8 and she told me she was asking $70.

Even the older lenses are apparently suffering.
( I politely said "No, thank you" and walked right out, btw)
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One part of the equation is Pentax's apparent commitment to end production of entry level primes and focus on expensive glass. The FA35 is mostly gone, and the FA50 pretty sure to follow.

I think this is very poor marketing. You know how drug dealers work..the first sample is always free. Pentax desperately needs a fast "normal" for APS-c in the 30mm range to acquaint new users with the joys of primes. In the interest of price, compromise on materials, build quality and size, but get IQ at least to DA 16-50 levels, with a nice fast 1.7. Add to that an ultrawide entry level prime, say, 12mm.

You can now have a semi-rational approach to LBA. Start with the kit lenses. Add the 30 to see if IQ and low light really matter to you. Throw in the ultrawide for all those architecture students out there, real estate agents shooting houses, and those just curious about wild perspectives such lenses render. Now hooked, (heh) upgrade to more primes and pricier zooms as needed...

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Canon got some cheap primes lower than $500. I dunno when can pentax made some of those..
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QuoteOriginally posted by rustynail925 Quote
Canon got some cheap primes lower than $500. I dunno when can pentax made some of those..
The problem is really one of volume. Most of the lenses sold these days are consumer zooms like the kit lens, the 50-200, and the DA 55-300. Because Pentax sells more of these, they can keep their prices down on them.

Even priced low, I don't think that Pentax sells that many new primes. The FA 50 is priced similarly to equivalent Canon/Sony/Nikon 50 f1.4 lenses, the difference is that there isn't a tier below like a 50mm f2 or a 35 f2 and I don't see there being one any time soon.

The grass isn't necessarily greener. The DA* zooms are quite competitive in their pricing if you are willing to chance SDM failure. B and H is selling the 50-135 for 820 dollars and the 16-50 for 770 dollars. In comparison, Canon's 70-200 f2.8 IS is 1800 dollars, their 17-55 f2.8 is 1030 (IS not available). Nikon is selling their 70-200 VRII for 2319 dollars and their 17-55 for 1369.

Frankly, I have been shocked how all of the camera companies have been raising prices over the last two years. Two years ago, Canon's 70-200 f2.8 IS was selling for around 1000 dollars. That is an 80 percent increase in lens prices since then.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winnie Quote
I went to a used camera shop in December in Providence, RI, and bought a Super Takumar 50mm 1.4 for $45

I went back in there this week and was looking at an M 28mm 2.8 and she told me she was asking $70.

Even the older lenses are apparently suffering.
( I politely said "No, thank you" and walked right out, btw)
I don't know anything about that 50, but $70 for an M28/2.8 is a pretty good deal if it's in good condition. That's in line with what the going rate has been for years. Not that one can't occasionally get lucky on Ebay because supply is so high there's always the occasional lens that goes for less.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
I hope it is... my FA 50 1.4 apparently is worth over twice what I paid for it.


Hopefully it will soon be worth enough that I can trade it for a FA 77
But as I know in Shanghai, FA 50 costs around $240, however, here it is over $300.
For FA 77, in Shanghai, the silver edition is around $630. All FA Limited (we call them 3 princess lens) silver edition is much cheaper than the black edition, however, it seems that black edition is more expensive here.

I bought DA40 and DA15 here, the price of these two lens is much lower than in Shanghai. I cannot explain why, it is just...so incredible
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QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
I don't know anything about that 50, but $70 for an M28/2.8 is a pretty good deal if it's in good condition. That's in line with what the going rate has been for years. Not that one can't occasionally get lucky on Ebay because supply is so high there's always the occasional lens that goes for less.
Well, you've been here long enough to where you'd know. I checked the lens database and the average is $40. But then again, the prices paid are anywhere from $15 to $100.
Also on ebay the lens doesn't seem to sell for more than $50.

...and for what it's worth, it did seem to be in good condition. No front lens cap, but it had one for the rear.
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