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03-01-2010, 04:21 AM   #1
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Value of super takumar 1.4/50mm, 3.5/28mm 3.5/135mm

all lenses are in great condition just wondered if any one had a good idea of there value if sold as a set or separately ?

super Takumar f1.4/50, f3.5/28, f3.5/135

although don't think I could ever sell the 1.4!

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I wouldn't sell the 28 either. I hear it's better than most of the other 28s. Not to mention its beauty.
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i will probably hold on to them all but yeah would love to know there value if anyone has any idea?
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From what I've seen on eBay, M42 Takumars and Spotmatics are all over the map right now. I'm curious about this myself, as I ran across a Takumar 1.4/50 at a pawn shop, and want to know how much I should ask for it. (Don't worry, I already had a 1.4 takumar, so it's not as though I'm getting rid of the only one I had.)

According to eBay's "What's it worth?" Dialog, the 1.4 is worth 79.73 on average, with a price range of $0.01-$149.00.

The 28mm f/3.5 is worth $47.57, with a maximum price of $129.

The 135mm f/3.5 is worth 43.35, with a maximum price of $89.

Of course, how much your lenses are worth depends on their condition and where you try to sell them.

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I don't think selling a set gets as high a price as individually, in an eBay auction. In a BIN listing or classified ad, it might work better. For auctions, buyers who don't need the whole set will only bid on the parts they really want. Some sellers take this concept to extremes, creating a separate listing for the lens, front cap, rear cap, hood, case, hood case, etc.

Just like in real estate, location is important, as unixrevolution said. Individual markets vary. That also applies to camera brand markets. Remember that M42 lenses can be used on all kinds of bodies, so make sure even Canon users can find your sale.

I think a great picture of the lens in a sale listing adds up to 10% to its value. Don't use a single uncropped direct flash photo of the lens in the middle of an ugly rug, 400 pixels wide. Start with photo like this:

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Pentax Super Takumar 135mm f3.5 M42 Screw Mount Lens - eBay (item 350322941029 end time Mar-07-10 17:20:25 PST)
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Value of M42 Super-Takumar 3.5/135 depends which version, 5/4 or4/4 elements/groups; 5/4 version is more valuable.

Side of auto/man switch, no number, 354, or 743, is 5/4 version, and 43541 is 4/4 version.

5/4 version auto/man switch is labelled "A/M" instead of "Auto/Man"

Item in JeffJS auction link is 5/4 version!

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QuoteOriginally posted by rhodopsin Quote

Item in JeffJS auction link is 5/4 version!
Not my auction, just one I found that I thought relevant to the thread.



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QuoteOriginally posted by maximg4040 Quote
all lenses are in great condition just wondered if any one had a good idea of there value if sold as a set or separately ?

super Takumar f1.4/50, f3.5/28, f3.5/135

although don't think I could ever sell the 1.4!

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Value would vary widely. Factors such as whether you are the original owner, the lenses have front and rear caps, and whether or not they are original all play a part. If you have the original boxes, packing material and the booklet that was with in the box, then you have a killer IMHO. I doubt the f1.4/50 has a case since this was a kit lens on many Spotmatics. I do have a case for mine, but it was bought much later. For my f3.5/135, (as well as my Spotmatic) I have original boxes, packing material and the booklet . Price tag is still on the box. You can get it by removing it from my cold dead hands.
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QuoteOriginally posted by unixrevolution Quote
From what I've seen on eBay, M42 Takumars and Spotmatics are all over the map right now. I'm curious about this myself, as I ran across a Takumar 1.4/50 at a pawn shop, and want to know how much I should ask for it. (Don't worry, I already had a 1.4 takumar, so it's not as though I'm getting rid of the only one I had.)

According to eBay's "What's it worth?" Dialog, the 1.4 is worth 79.73 on average, with a price range of $0.01-$149.00.

The 28mm f/3.5 is worth $47.57, with a maximum price of $129.

The 135mm f/3.5 is worth 43.35, with a maximum price of $89.

Of course, how much your lenses are worth depends on their condition and where you try to sell them.
They have always been all over the map. However, there are at least 3 different versions of the Super Tak 28mm f3.5 lens. The first one has 6/7 formula with 58mm filter threads and f3.5-22 and the 2nd one is the same except it is f3.5-16. The 3rd one is 7/7 with 49mm filter threads and f3.5-16. There's a similar thing with the Super Tak 135mm f3.5 with a 4/5 and 4/4 version. There may be other subtle variations on top of that.

There are 3 versions of the Super Tak 50mm f1.4 as well not counting variations. The earliest has a 7/8 formula and the latter 2 have 6/7. The best way to tell them apart is with the Asahi part number on the A-M switch 358, 378 or 37801 in order). There are also Honeywell part numbers. 879 on the oldest and blank on the newer ones.

That said, those price are actually what I observe and these lenses are on a list I keep up with to some degree.

Edit: The Asahi part number on the A-M switch for the Super Tak 28mm f3.5 in order are 348, blank, 43871 and the Honeywell numbers are blank, 741 and 7081. As you can see, the blank ones cause a problem since they correspond to different models in the Asahi/Honeywell scheme.

The Asahi part number on the A-M switch for the 4/5 Super Tak 135mm f3.5 is 354 and the 4/4 version is 43541 and the honeywell numbers 743 for the 4/5 and blank on the 4/4.

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the first version of 3.5/135 Super-Takumar serial numbers begin with "1"
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QuoteOriginally posted by rhodopsin Quote
the first version of 3.5/135 Super-Takumar serial numbers begin with "1"
That's a good point. I also want to state that the above Part # are a guide and anomalies exist. For example I have seen the same part number on a 55mm Super Tak and an 50mm Super Tak. I have also seen part numbers not listed in the AOHC data bases on Super Tak 50mm f1.4 lenses (37800).
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QuoteOriginally posted by Blue Quote
There are 3 versions of the Super Tak 50mm f1.4 as well not counting variations. he earliest has a 7/8 formula and the latter 2 have 6/7. The best way to tell them apart is with the Asahi part number on the A-M switch 358, 378 or 37801 in order). There are also Honeywell part numbers. 879 on the oldest and blank on the newer ones.
It's much easier to just look at the position of the IR mark: it's different with respect to the f/4 marking; I expect this is due to the different optical formulas. I imagine this should be a simpler and more reliable sign than looking for A/M switch differences. Unless the different positioning of that mark is due to some production error

Does anyone have any more detailed information about the differences in the optical design between the early and later models of the 50/1.4 Super Taks? I've done a bit of search around, but I only found bits here and pieces there, and no article discussing in more detail the production run of these lenses. According to the review of the older model in this forum, it seems like there is an interesting history behind this change of design, but I can't find any other references supporting that information.
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Take a look here, as most of the reviews include prices: Pentax Lens Review Database - Pentax M42 Screwmount Lenses

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QuoteOriginally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor Quote
It's much easier to just look at the position of the IR mark: it's different with respect to the f/4 marking; I expect this is due to the different optical formulas. I imagine this should be a simpler and more reliable sign than looking for A/M switch differences. Unless the different positioning of that mark is due to some production error

Does anyone have any more detailed information about the differences in the optical design between the early and later models of the 50/1.4 Super Taks? I've done a bit of search around, but I only found bits here and pieces there, and no article discussing in more detail the production run of these lenses. According to the review of the older model in this forum, it seems like there is an interesting history behind this change of design, but I can't find any other references supporting that information.
you have seen Frank Mechelhoff's pages?:

Early Pentax Takumar Lenses

Early Pentax Takumar Lenses

There is also a table somewhere listing Asahi & Honeywell part numbers and dates of production. Sorry, I had copied it into a spreadsheet and reformatted it, and have lost the original link. Maybe someone else has it?

Also look at aohc.it
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