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03-02-2010, 12:02 AM   #16
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I'm in the tele market too. Bought a second hand Sigma 100-300 f/4 (another option you could consider), but it had some serious internal issues and I got a refund. Now I'm pretty much set on the 60-250. It sounds quite remarkably small for a big tele range (67mm filter - one good thing about f/4), and while f/2.8 would be good, it's a good trade off between focal length and speed. 50-135mm sounds like top IQ, but the range isn't something I'd pay a lot for, unless I shot a lot of portrait. I mean, the range is fine - as others have said it's close to a 70-200 in 35mm format, but I still would like the tele reach of the 60-250 myself.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ari Quote
The 60-250, once again, is built like a tank, unbelievable iq and weather sealed, But f4 was just too slow for what I was shooting. I sold the 50-135 and bought the FA 77ltd and just sold my 60-250 and bought a Sigma 70-200.
I might head this route as well...I had bought two Sigma 70-200's w/ the seltzer bubble coating issues and returned them, then went w/ the 60-250 but find it a bit slow at times and not as sharp wide open as I had hoped (I thought it'd be close to Canon's 70-200/4). It's nice that it's 500g lighter than the Sigma 70-200 though and the 60 end is nice on APS-C so it keeps you from needing to switch out the lens sooner...
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I have both the Pentax DA* 50-135mm and the 60-250mm f4.

The lens that gets taken out and used the most is ... the Sigma 70-200mm f2.8.
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Hmmm.
Maybe I'm too focused on the weather sealing.... Would you guys take the Sigma lenses out on a rainy day?
Considering norwegian retail prices the Sigma lenses are a very sweet deal compared to Pentax (roughly $1100 vs $2150).

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QuoteOriginally posted by bfo Quote
Weather sealing is vital. Outdoors in Norway is not necessarily dry.
If SDM/HSM fails. Will normal (camera driven) autofocus work?
If you have a K10d you can downgrade your firmware to version 1.20, and then SDM is not supported by the camera and it will use screw drive with all lenses.

My 50-135 just came back from Pentax - they replaced the motor under warranty - but when the SDM fails again, if it does, I will keep the lens and use it as the superb piece of optics it is. I will manual focus the lens. I have other things to do with $300 or thereabouts than repair a lens AF motor.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bfo Quote
I'm traveling to the US every once in a while, so probably will pay "only" about $ 800.
If you buy the lens in Norway, I think you will be covered by the 5 year consumer warranty, no? It might be worth the price difference, compared to the 1 year international warranty.

The price difference between Sigma and Pentax is ridiculous, but unfortunately, the 50-135 is the only weather-sealed lens in that range.
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I really like the 50-135. It is a very sharp lens and useful focal length to me. I think the f4 of the 60-250 would be limiting. Weather sealing is a big deal and works like a charm. A lot of places that sell lenses over extended warranties on them (like Mack) that should be good world wide. I know Prodigital2000 does. This might be worth looking in to, just because of the nature of SDM. The warranties usually run 20 or 25 dollars, so they aren't too bad.
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If you buy the lens in Norway, I think you will be covered by the 5 year consumer warranty, no? It might be worth the price difference, compared to the 1 year international warranty.
Yes. and the norwegian consumer warranty far outshines any manufacturer warranty.

But regasrding the price difference of the da* 60-250 you can buy 2 of them at B&H and still have $ left.

In the case of Sigma 70-200 f 2.8 and da* 50-135 the price difference is not that bad. And the added security and convenience of shopping localy might well be worth the extra $.

Problem is, I'm starting to think 135 mm is too short, and the Sigma's not weather sealed.

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Consider carefully whether you need the longer reach of 60-250 (e.g. for long-distance shots, or whatever shooting style/uses you have in mind).

Otherwise all is in favour of the 50-135 (faster, lighter - though not that light by itself I hear -, better handholdable). I nicknamed my 60-250 lovingly "Jumbo" (seriously, it's ridiculously huge&heavy, and the absurd barrel diameter (considering it's an APS-C F4) adds insult to injury), dumped it in the drawer indefinitely and bought the 50-200WR for travel instead - comparable in size and weight to my old hiking zoom (FA 28-70/4).

And as you see, there are other alternatives also. And, not least, primes - I'm starting to find the DA200 inexplicably alluring...
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QuoteOriginally posted by bfo Quote
Problem is, I'm starting to think 135 mm is too short, and the Sigma's not weather sealed.
But how can you know unless you've tried it? Could you go to a camera store and try it (or a similar focal length, like 150mm) on your camera?
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But how can you know unless you've tried it? Could you go to a camera store and try it (or a similar focal length, like 150mm) on your camera?
I've tested with my DA 50-200mm WR. Altough not very much.
But I definetlys see the longer range come in handy when shooting someone on the far bank of a river....
The IQ of the 50-200 WR isn't all that good. So basicaly I want to replace it with a better lens.
Then again, I don't want to carry more than highly necessary. My backpack usually weights 80 lbs + on longer trips into the mountains. So restricting weigtht on photo equipment will be a bonus...
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I vote the Sigma 100-300 f4, sold my 50-135 in favor of the sigma.
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The 55-300 is probably the best of the budget options, the slowness of it means that it is also quite compact and light. The 60-250 is remarkably small for a high quality (although not f/2.8) telephoto as it is only f/4 and designed for APS-C. An only 67mm filter size still blows me away!
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I vote the Sigma 100-300 f4, sold my 50-135 in favor of the sigma.
Doesn't sound typical but a (2nd hand) Sigma 100-300 f/4 I bought had serious internal issues which meant I got a refund. It is also a comparatively large lens as it is full-frame. On a good copy, IQ sounds awesome.
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QuoteOriginally posted by CWyatt Quote
The 60-250 is remarkably small for a high quality (although not f/2.8) telephoto as it is only f/4 and designed for APS-C. An only 67mm filter size still blows me away!
Irony or you haven't handled it?
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