Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
03-15-2010, 02:44 PM   #1
Forum Member




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 57
Pentax SMC FA 50mm/F1,4 to buy or not to buy?

So, it's been a long time. My job is going to kill my photo hobby someday.

I found some used Pentax SMC FA 50mm/F1,4 lens in my place, for about 250$, lens is in a good condition, but i still have a dilemma. I rented this lens for a week, and i actually don't remember how it was with it.

I can't decide. In reviews this lens not showing very impressive results, but it's a fast prime, and unlike sigma's it is cheap.

I have a good old Industar 61L/Z, but it has its cons: strange-shaped aperture, and its a manual lens.

I'm not a really newbie, and i'm not a real pro.

So...To be, or not to be?

03-15-2010, 04:13 PM   #2
Veteran Member
esman7's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 322
It's a great lens and it's usually a steal. I got mine for $185 CAD and now that I've used it, I would've paid up to $300 for it.

Amazing portraits, colour rendition and good size.

Focus ring is small and the lens is "plasticky", but don't let that be the determining factor. Stop it down a bit as f1.4 is a bit too soft, but overall wonderful results.
03-15-2010, 10:25 PM   #3
Veteran Member
enoxatnep's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: The edge of nowhere, Alberta, Canada
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 467
I can't say I'm thrilled with mine wide open either (at f1.4), and I've read that the FA 50 f1.7 wide open is better than the f1.4 wide open. However, since that lens is hard to find and more expensive - along with the higher-rated F 50 f1.4 and f1.7 lenses - and because in a perfect world we'd all like the legendary yet extremely rare and expensive A 50 f1.2, that leaves the FA 50 f1.4 as your best bet. It's not hard to find and therefore the most affordable of the above mentioned, but it seems like the wide open performance is probably the reason why.
03-15-2010, 11:48 PM   #4
tux
Forum Member




Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 82
Also how does it compare to the others like:

fa 50 vs fa 43 @ f2
fa 50 vs da 40 @ f2.8

03-16-2010, 12:33 AM   #5
Forum Member
maximm's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 72
I would have to disagree with the previous poster about sharpness. Yes, sharpnss at f1.4 is soft, but that is just what I want it to be. This is a portrait lens at f1.4 and using it as such gives amazing results not possible with sharper lenses.

The following is the first picture i took with my FA50 f1.4. Gives amazing results right away. So dreamy! And remember f1.4 is a full stop faster than f1.7 which gives it another edge in low light.

03-16-2010, 01:43 AM   #6
New Member
boesgaard's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 24
Great for portraits

I like it:



You could say it's soft wide open, but the problem wide open is of course to keep everything important in focus.

Now, if you do not care for f1.4, you don't really need it :-)

Kind regards

Thomas
03-16-2010, 03:54 AM   #7
Veteran Member
RioRico's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Limbo, California
Posts: 11,264
The FA50/1.4 is my basic lens, ALWAYS in my bag, no matter what else I'm carrying at the moment. Slightly soft wide-open for portraits, sharp everywhere else. Other fast 50 manual primes are fun (and cheap), especially the Helios-44 58/2, which I now use with Catch-In-Focus. But the FA50 is a primary tool.
03-16-2010, 06:05 AM   #8
Forum Member




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 57
Original Poster
Thanks for the answers!

I decided to buy this lens, if i'm going to sell my Kenwood TH-F7E fast. This will give me some money.

So stay tuned for update

03-16-2010, 06:43 AM   #9
Pentaxian
Moderator Emeritus




Join Date: May 2007
Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 10,648
I agree with the others and to correct a comment above. f1.7 is a half stop less. Not a full stop. I have owned the FA50mm f1.7 and think that the comparisons are 1.4 vs 1.7 both wide open. Like that, yes the FA50mm f1.7 looks a bit sharper. But then when you stop the 1.4 down to 1.7, they are basically the same IMO.

this is the full stop scale: 1.4 2 2.8 4 5.6 8 11 16 22 32
And Half stop scale: 1.2 1.4 1.7 2 2.4 2.8 3.3 4 4.8 5.6 6.7 8 9.5 11 13 16 19 22
03-16-2010, 07:09 AM   #10
Veteran Member
rustynail925's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Philippines
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 1,552
Nice examples images.. Is there a thread/club w/ the FA 50mm 1.4 cant seem to find one
03-16-2010, 07:15 AM   #11
Pentaxian
audiobomber's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sudbury, Ontario
Photos: Albums
Posts: 6,631
It bugs the hell out of me when people say "The FA 50mm is softer wide open than the XXmm", when the XXmm can't even open to f/1.4.

QuoteOriginally posted by Eugene-S Quote
In reviews this lens not showing very impressive results
Which reviews? Photozone, PopPhoto and Luminous Landscape pretty much raved about it and DPR review rates it as Highly Recommended.

Everyone was waiting for the DA*55mm results to show how superior it is to the FA 50, but according to Photozone it's superior only in contrast below f2.8. So bump up the contrast on your wide aperture images.
03-16-2010, 07:21 AM   #12
Veteran Member
tokyoso's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tokyo
Photos: Albums
Posts: 723
QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
It bugs the hell out of me when people say "The FA 50mm is softer wide open than the XXmm", when the XXmm can't even open to f/1.4.
I think he [riorocco] has a zeiss ZK or some thang I cannot type...

Last edited by tokyoso; 03-16-2010 at 07:30 AM.
03-16-2010, 08:26 AM   #13
Veteran Member
Ben_Edict's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SouthWest "Regio"
Photos: Albums
Posts: 3,303
QuoteOriginally posted by RioRico Quote
The FA50/1.4 is my basic lens, ALWAYS in my bag, no matter what else I'm carrying at the moment. Slightly soft wide-open for portraits, sharp everywhere else. Other fast 50 manual primes are fun (and cheap), especially the Helios-44 58/2, which I now use with Catch-In-Focus. But the FA50 is a primary tool.
Actually I agree with most posters here: the FA 50/1.4 is a wonderful lens. Many people attribute their soft images to mediocre quality whereas they have simply misplaced their focus, as depth of field is very shallow fully open. There is a slight softness - which is to be expected at such a fast aperture.

I have only one caveat: if you prefer manual focus the A 50/1.4 is the better choice (or the 1.2). It focuses very, very smoothly and sports the same optics as the FA version.

Ben
03-16-2010, 08:50 AM   #14
Ira
Inactive Account




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 5,218
QuoteOriginally posted by boesgaard Quote
I like it:



You could say it's soft wide open, but the problem wide open is of course to keep everything important in focus.

Now, if you do not care for f1.4, you don't really need it :-)

Kind regards

Thomas
Beautiful shot!

But what's that purple thing on her head? Is that what they call a hat, that people put on to keep warm in cold weather?

(Sorry. Couldn't resist. You'll get even with me in August, and all during hurricane season.)
03-16-2010, 09:52 AM   #15
Forum Member




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 57
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
It bugs the hell out of me when people say "The FA 50mm is softer wide open than the XXmm", when the XXmm can't even open to f/1.4.



Which reviews? Photozone, PopPhoto and Luminous Landscape pretty much raved about it and DPR review rates it as Highly Recommended.

Everyone was waiting for the DA*55mm results to show how superior it is to the FA 50, but according to Photozone it's superior only in contrast below f2.8. So bump up the contrast on your wide aperture images.
Yep, but on the graphs sigma shows better sharpness, of course the price is higher.

In my opinion there is no reason to buy DA* 55mm. FA 50 is almost the same lens, SDM and WR (Is it there?) the only cons of it. But the price... It is crazy...Especially in my place 1008$ for new DA*55 and the 525$ for new FA 50
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
fa, k-mount, lens, pentax, pentax lens, pentax smc fa, slr lens, smc
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Should I be a good Pentax choirboy and buy a DA 15 Limited or buy the Sigma 10-20mm? tokyoso Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 42 03-14-2010 04:54 PM
SIGMA 70-200mm f/2.8 II EX DG APO Macro HSM Lens for PENTAX:To buy or not to buy? thelittlecar Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 21 12-31-2009 06:01 AM
To Buy Or Not To Buy Pentax F 50mm 1.7 Slice Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 13 03-21-2009 06:39 PM
anyone know where to buy SMC PENTAX-F AF Adapter 1.7x dr100hr Pentax Camera and Field Accessories 3 09-15-2007 07:05 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:23 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top