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03-03-2011, 04:49 PM - 1 Like   #31
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We've gone over this before. Besides my comments above, which are all witty and succinct, I must make these points:

LBA CAN BE CURED! Death or dismemberment, coma, lifetime incarceration, etc.
LBA CAN BE TREATED! Bankruptcy, exile, lobotomy, short-term incarceration, etc.
LBA CAN BE AVOIDED! Drugs, religious conversion, blinding, move into mine, etc.

See, it's easy.

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The sad truth is that you are correct. THere is nothing witty or satyrical about the truth.
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https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/23745-da%2A-50...last-lens.html

After making above post, I have not bought a single lens. Well, OK, my new K-x came with kit lens, but I didn't even bother to mount it, just put it up for sale immediately, so doesn't count.

To avoid LBA, analyze your shots to see what focal lengths, apertures, ISOs you mostly use, there is a piece of software that can do this for you, I forget what its called. Then build a roadmap of the best lenses you think you can afford based on the findings. Buy them, and then be done with it. To better what I already have, it will cost me an arm and a leg, and the thought of that kills any LBA feelings that may crop up in my mind.
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I just need one more lens, then I'll stop buying

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Sure LBA is curable, you just have to get the best lens of each focal length you want.
There is only a a couple more lenses that i want, but im by no way itching to get them, I got my 3 most wanted lenses first and thats more than enough medicine to cure a case LBA.

But in saying that everyones disease is different.
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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
Sure LBA is curable, you just have to get the best lens of each focal length you want.
But one must buy and test many many lenses in each focal length, to determine which is best.

And best for what? Just at 50mm (not counting 52-55-58) I find these each 'best' in different ways: FA50/1.4, Yashinon-DX and SMC-M 50/1.7's, Meyer Oreston 50/1.8, Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (Exakta mount, 12 iris blades), MacTak 50/4 (1x). Nearby 'bests' in their own ways are: Chinon 45/2.8; Tomioka 55/1.4; Mamiya and SuperTak and Petri C.C. 55/1.8's, Helios 58/2.

Other focal lengths aren't so crowded but the principle remains. Say around 100mm: the Vivitar-Komine 90/2.8 macro isn't the Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8 nor the Enna Tele-Sandmar nor Isco Westar 100/4.5's, nor the SuperTak 105/2.8. All of various sizes and qualities and purposes. The Viv is huge and sharp, the Enna is tiny and quaint. And of course...

[LBA police come, straightjacket /me, haul /me away, curses...]
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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
Sure LBA is curable, you just have to get the best lens of each focal length you want.
but not after you got the best lenses of each category. Just don't get worsen by buying another Leica or medium format or starting with shift/tilt lenses or another FF body in other brand. They are not cheap in the length.

I don't have as much 50s as RioRico or others, but more than average, depends on uses, bokeh and color rending. I just keep all lenses I bought through the years and play with them. Finding weak/sweet spots for each one takes time, but I prefer spending time with these lenses than spending money to buy new stuff. I buy new if I m done with all mine.

backup body? only needed for paid jobs as insurance, but never use the backup. Just an excuse to buy more stuff ;-)

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QuoteOriginally posted by RioRico Quote
But one must buy and test many many lenses in each focal length, to determine which is best.

And best for what? Just at 50mm (not counting 52-55-58) I find these each 'best' in different ways: FA50/1.4, Yashinon-DX and SMC-M 50/1.7's, Meyer Oreston 50/1.8, Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (Exakta mount, 12 iris blades), MacTak 50/4 (1x). Nearby 'bests' in their own ways are: Chinon 45/2.8; Tomioka 55/1.4; Mamiya and SuperTak and Petri C.C. 55/1.8's, Helios 58/2.

Other focal lengths aren't so crowded but the principle remains. Say around 100mm: the Vivitar-Komine 90/2.8 macro isn't the Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8 nor the Enna Tele-Sandmar nor Isco Westar 100/4.5's, nor the SuperTak 105/2.8. All of various sizes and qualities and purposes. The Viv is huge and sharp, the Enna is tiny and quaint. And of course...

[LBA police come, straightjacket /me, haul /me away, curses...]
QuoteOriginally posted by hoanpham Quote
but not after you got the best lenses of each category. Just don't get worsen by buying another Leica or medium format or starting with shift/tilt lenses or another FF body in other brand. They are not cheap in the length.

I don't have as much 50s as RioRico or others, but more than average, depends on uses, bokeh and color rending. I just keep all lenses I bought through the years and play with them. Finding weak/sweet spots for each one takes time, but I prefer spending time with these lenses than spending money to buy new stuff. I buy new if I m done with all mine.

backup body? only needed for paid jobs as insurance, but never use the backup. Just an excuse to buy more stuff ;-)
Did you read my last sentence?
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But in saying that everyones disease is different.



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I definitely side with the "NO" group!

I don't know whether it's because it's incurable or I simply don't want to be cured...
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Try being broke. Bought two lenses in the last year for under 100 quid each. I don't think that can be called LBA so I declare myself cured!
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I think the biggest cure for LBA is shooting a lot. The worst possible thing to instigate a relapse is hanging out on this forum!

I don't particularly want/need any new lenses at this point. I don't use really long lenses that often and I have too many lenses in the mid-focal lengths right now anyway (DA *55, DA 40, DA 35, and DA *16-50). I guess I could sell one of them, but then I just know, that I would want that particular lens later..
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As second though, NO, LBA is not curable.

As the few hours between my posts, I just got a 50f1.2 ;-)
Delivered tomorrow. What a rush!

I was looking for this lens with reasonable price for years.
It was a gift and my first lens that came with my first camera, but had been stolen.

Anyone feels as you enter a time machine before?

;-) ;-p ;-b ;-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
Sure LBA is curable, you just have to get the best lens of each focal length you want.
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Hee, hee ... but how can you be sure it is the best, can you sleep soundly without having first-hand proof ... if you ever get past that, then surely a couple of copies of the same lens, just to be on the safe side ...
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Does it mean that I am cured?

;-)
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I think you just need to buy all of the lenses!
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