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04-21-2010, 02:46 PM   #1
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Difference between Samsung & Pentax FishEye?

Is there anyone out there that has used or at least know about these two lenses? Is there a difference between them?

Samsung 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED FishEys D-Xenogon Lens
Samsung | 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED Fish Eye | EZ-DLENS021/E1 | B&H


Pentax DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 FishEye
Pentax | SMCP-DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED Autofocus Lens | 21580

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QuoteOriginally posted by KxBlaze Quote
Is there anyone out there that has used or at least know about these two lenses? Is there a difference between them?

Samsung 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED FishEys D-Xenogon Lens
Samsung | 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED Fish Eye | EZ-DLENS021/E1 | B&H


Pentax DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 FishEye
Pentax | SMCP-DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED Autofocus Lens | 21580
Back in a land far, far away, Pentax and Samsung cocreated camera bodies with each other, and some lenses to go with it. They're exactly the same lenses, actually, the same optical formulas, but the Samsung lenses are blue and the Pentax ones are green, along with the branding of them, and the Samsung ones don't have the SMC coating, I don't think. They're essentially the same thing though.
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Thank you. The Samsung retails for about $150 less than the Pentax. Do you think the SMC is worth the extra $?
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QuoteOriginally posted by KxBlaze Quote
Thank you. The Samsung retails for about $150 less than the Pentax. Do you think the SMC is worth the extra $?
Well if you can't afford to pay the extra money, then no, but if you can, then yes. It doesn't make a huge difference, but you're likely not going to get those Pentax colors that most of their lenses produce, but with Lightroom it's not like that really matters as much anyways for how much less the lens costs you. I would just get the Samsung one.

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I believe that they are exactly the same lenses, including the coatings. Samsung just rebaged a number of Pentax's lenses and sold them as Xenogon/Schneider lenses. For a while, the Samsung version of the FA 35 was a lot cheaper than the FA version, but as Samsung has moved away from dSLRs, that has dried up.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
I believe that they are exactly the same lenses, including the coatings.
Is this confirmed anyone as the samsung version of this lens is near half the price in the UK?

Having trouble finding review of the samsung version of this lens also...

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I have the Samsung version of the DA 12-24mm and comparing copies with the original Pentax version, they are exactly identical. Also had the Samsung version of the kit lens before. So I would say the fisheye would be the same too.
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Is this confirmed anyone as the samsung version of this lens is near half the price in the UK?

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Get the Samsung. On their website it says the Samsung has SP (Super Protect) which is like (but not exactly) the Pentax SMC coating and it also has the Quick-Shit focusing. For 1/2 the $ I would rather have the Samsung anyday (although I do love my DA version).

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QuoteOriginally posted by KxBlaze Quote
Get the Samsung. On their website it says the Samsung has SP (Super Protect) which is like (but not exactly) the Pentax SMC coating and it also has the Quick-Shit focusing. For 1/2 the $ I would rather have the Samsung anyday (although I do love my DA version).
Actually, SP is a separate coating that Pentax developed to help keep stuff from sticking to the surface of the front element and is in addition to the SMC.
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Actually, SP is a separate coating that Pentax developed to help keep stuff from sticking to the surface of the front element and is in addition to the SMC.
And if the Samsung version has SP then there's no reason why it wouldn't also have SMC, since both are Pentax coatings rather than Samsung ones.
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And if the Samsung version has SP then there's no reason why it wouldn't also have SMC, since both are Pentax coatings rather than Samsung ones.
Exactly. Its not like Samsung had the capacity for 35mm optics at the time anyway.
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The Samsung&Pentax Lensline was exactly the same glas and coating.
Only the lensbodys were different.
samsung lenses were complete produced by pentax.
Only between Tokina and Pentax lenses are differents in coating and productionplaces.
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Thank you all for the replies, have been away for a couple days and the response has been top notch!
Cheapest I can find the Pentax 10-17mm fish in the UK is 425, the Samsung version can be found (through thorough search) for 260 and with the info you guys have given I'd be a mug not to!
Roll on student loans!!
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Definitely get the Samsung version, as you are likely to find that the FE is a great lens, but won't be your workhorse lens (specialty only). It's a great lens and is very versatile.

The only real difference between the two (Pentax/Samsung) is that you would likely garner more in resale of the Pentax lens if you chose to sell down the road.


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Pentax 10-17

I like my pentax 10-17 but agree with an earlier poster, it is a specialty lens that I use every once in a while but it pays for itself come wedding day.
Here is a video with my k7 and an pic with my k10
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