Help, please.

little laker · 04-24-2010, 10:59 AM

All that I can think of after seeing those pics is..... I wonder what the bokeh is like

It'll be interesting to say the least, and may even somehow be pleasing.

If you decide to buy it, please take some pic's using it before the repair and post them.

**interested_observer** · 04-24-2010, 11:16 AM

Interesting set of links...

... so it sells at Christies in 2001 for $612 + VAT + buyer's premium

séamuis · 04-24-2010, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by interested_observer

Interesting set of links...

... so it sells at Christies in 2001 for $612 + VAT + buyer's premium

the christies ad is for the m37 Asahi-Kogaku Takumar, for the Asahiflex. while the m42's are more rare (due to lower numers made during a shorter life span) the m37 version will certainly always garner a higher value. the one the OP is considering however is the early m42 version made between 1957 and 1959. same optical design, just updated for the newly introduced m42 bodies and quickly dissolved by an 85mm.

rhodopsin · 04-24-2010, 11:48 AM

Wow, rare lens. Someone above mentioned possible aperture problems. Another is one or more aperture blades with a broken pin. These are more difficult to repair, involving finding correct size stock (easy) and riveting to the blade without bending the blade (not so easy, requires skill, patience, and luck). I would buy if I can see all of the aperture blades are present and none of them are bent. Looking at second set of photos I would guess broken pin...

Ira · 04-24-2010, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Cedromar

It includes a Super-Tak 150mm f4 (which I already own) and a Super-Tak 55mm f2. Which puts the 83 around 200, all things considered.

This is my math:

The 55 is 20 bucks, and the 150 hovers at a hundred and change.

Offer him $200 for all, or walk away,

Ira · 04-24-2010, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by interested_observer

... so it sells at Christies in 2001 for $612 + VAT + buyer's premium

Different lens, different time, and that's Christies.

Cedromar · 04-24-2010, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Ira

This is my math:

The 55 is 20 bucks, and the 150 hovers at a hundred and change.

Offer him $200 for all, or walk away,

Yeah, that's the offer I made. It was rejected and then I made an offer for the 83 on its own and am waiting to hear back. Oh well, at this point I just want to see it get fixed up and back out in the field.

Ira · 04-24-2010, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Cedromar

Yeah, that's the offer I made. It was rejected and then I made an offer for the 83 on its own and am waiting to hear back. Oh well, at this point I just want to see it get fixed up and back out in the field.

Smart move. It's not worth the headache.

I've been trying to nail down a 85 1.9 that is in GREAT condition for $300 to $400 for about a month now, and I keep screwing up. I doubt the optics on this are all that superior to pay so much money for a broken lens, putting the nostalgia factor aside.

I'm 53, and I would be willing to pull the trigger on a Mamiya Sekor 55 1.4 for $150--but that's because I had one when I was 16. Not saying it's NOT worth it, but is it really? Especially when I have the Tak 50 1.4 that I paid $35 for before these prices all went nuts?

04-24-2010, 11:16 AM	#17
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	Interesting set of links... Takumar f/1.9 83mm. no. 54449 \| Christie's Early Pentax Takumar Lenses Manual Focus Lenses :: View topic - A piano through 83mm and 58mm Takumars ... so it sells at Christies in 2001 for $612 + VAT + buyer's premium

04-24-2010, 11:42 AM	#18
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by interested_observer Interesting set of links... Takumar f/1.9 83mm. no. 54449 \| Christie's Early Pentax Takumar Lenses Manual Focus Lenses :: View topic - A piano through 83mm and 58mm Takumars ... so it sells at Christies in 2001 for $612 + VAT + buyer's premium the christies ad is for the m37 Asahi-Kogaku Takumar, for the Asahiflex. while the m42's are more rare (due to lower numers made during a shorter life span) the m37 version will certainly always garner a higher value. the one the OP is considering however is the early m42 version made between 1957 and 1959. same optical design, just updated for the newly introduced m42 bodies and quickly dissolved by an 85mm.

04-24-2010, 10:59 AM	#16
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	All that I can think of after seeing those pics is..... I wonder what the bokeh is like It'll be interesting to say the least, and may even somehow be pleasing. If you decide to buy it, please take some pic's using it before the repair and post them.

04-24-2010, 11:48 AM	#19
rhodopsin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Deep Forest Posts: 643	Wow, rare lens. Someone above mentioned possible aperture problems. Another is one or more aperture blades with a broken pin. These are more difficult to repair, involving finding correct size stock (easy) and riveting to the blade without bending the blade (not so easy, requires skill, patience, and luck). I would buy if I can see all of the aperture blades are present and none of them are bent. Looking at second set of photos I would guess broken pin...

04-24-2010, 11:54 AM	#20
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by Cedromar It includes a Super-Tak 150mm f4 (which I already own) and a Super-Tak 55mm f2. Which puts the 83 around 200, all things considered. This is my math: The 55 is 20 bucks, and the 150 hovers at a hundred and change. Offer him $200 for all, or walk away,

04-24-2010, 11:58 AM	#21
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by interested_observer ... so it sells at Christies in 2001 for $612 + VAT + buyer's premium Different lens, different time, and that's Christies.

04-24-2010, 12:18 PM	#22
Cedromar Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 30 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ira This is my math: The 55 is 20 bucks, and the 150 hovers at a hundred and change. Offer him $200 for all, or walk away, Yeah, that's the offer I made. It was rejected and then I made an offer for the 83 on its own and am waiting to hear back. Oh well, at this point I just want to see it get fixed up and back out in the field.

04-24-2010, 01:02 PM	#23
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by Cedromar Yeah, that's the offer I made. It was rejected and then I made an offer for the 83 on its own and am waiting to hear back. Oh well, at this point I just want to see it get fixed up and back out in the field. Smart move. It's not worth the headache. I've been trying to nail down a 85 1.9 that is in GREAT condition for $300 to $400 for about a month now, and I keep screwing up. I doubt the optics on this are all that superior to pay so much money for a broken lens, putting the nostalgia factor aside. I'm 53, and I would be willing to pull the trigger on a Mamiya Sekor 55 1.4 for $150--but that's because I had one when I was 16. Not saying it's NOT worth it, but is it really? Especially when I have the Tak 50 1.4 that I paid $35 for before these prices all went nuts?