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04-26-2010, 08:28 PM   #1
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How about a wide angle to replace my kit lens?

I was hoping you guys could help me out. I am looking for a wide angle...preferrably a zoom..that I could use to replace my kit lens with and sell the kit lens.

I don't mind if it is manual focus but it must be able to fit without and adapter on my K-x. It would be used for landscapes mostly so I'm obviously looking for something decently sharp.

I also don't have a whole lot to spend...I'd love to spend under $100 but I could budge for the right lens. Anything autofocus would obviously be a plus too.....

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QuoteOriginally posted by timstone Quote
I was hoping you guys could help me out. I am looking for a wide angle...preferrably a zoom..that I could use to replace my kit lens with and sell the kit lens.

I don't mind if it is manual focus but it must be able to fit without and adapter on my K-x. It would be used for landscapes mostly so I'm obviously looking for something decently sharp.

I also don't have a whole lot to spend...I'd love to spend under $100 but I could budge for the right lens. Anything autofocus would obviously be a plus too.....
Sorry, but you're out of luck here. I've been searching for the exact same thing. There aren't many manual lenses under 28mm for under $100. Your best bet may be the 35-105mm f3.5 Pentax-A lens which you can score for around $120 or an off brand 28mm f2.8 manual lens. Why not just use the kit lens? It's got 18mm. There's no way in hell you can beat that for under $300 even.
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I was really just wanting something that wasn't as soft and had a bit more contrast...thought there might be a good manual lens that would do the trick.
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At what focal point? For ~$100, all you're going to score is a 28mm f2.8 unless you get REALLY lucky. I highly recommend the 35-105 if you can live with the 35mm end of it.

Your signature says you own a DA 10-17mm?

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At what focal point? For ~$100, all you're going to score is a 28mm f2.8 unless you get REALLY lucky. I highly recommend the 35-105 if you can live with the 35mm end of it.

Your signature says you own a DA 10-17mm?

The 10-17 is a fisheye...can't really use that for landscapes....I mean...you can...but then you have to deal with the distortion and such.
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35mm on APS0-C is never a wide angle lens...
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I think you would be surprised what the kit lens could do if you gave it the time of day. Contrast can easily be tweaked with programs like Photoshop.

Otherwise, start saving for;

- DA 16-45/f4 $350-400

- Tamron 17-50/f2.8 $400-450
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QuoteOriginally posted by timstone Quote
The 10-17 is a fisheye...can't really use that for landscapes....I mean...you can...but then you have to deal with the distortion and such.
You can either use software to fix the distortion or sell it and use the money for a wide angle. There's really not much to be done besides the two options I mentioned. I've been on the stake out for a 24mm f2.0 from Vivitar and even that went to $140. They only appear once a week or so. Perhaps there are some 24mm f2.8 that can be had for $100 or less.

QuoteOriginally posted by henryjing Quote
35mm on APS0-C is never a wide angle lens...
Yeah well, that's the closest you'll get to a zoom with good color/contrast for roughly $100.

Edit: and I was wrong:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/99388-sale-su...al-us-can.html

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28*1.5=42mm just as a standard lens...meaningless

kit lens is not so bad, especially for its cost, and sharp at 5.6, try more at f 5.6

another option is just as above said, use 10-17 and deal the pic with software
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well there is always stitching.
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QuoteOriginally posted by henryjing Quote
28*1.5=42mm just as a standard lens...meaningless

kit lens is not so bad, especially for its cost, and sharp at 5.6, try more at f 5.6

another option is just as above said, use 10-17 and deal the pic with software
Wide angle is all relative at his price point. 24-28mm (Sorry sir, I meant 36-42mm) is as wide as it's going to get for $100 unless you stick with the kit lens. Please get that through your head.

Instead of telling me how meaningless it is, would you be kind enough to offer a solution that hasn't been mentioned yet?
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Can you live with 24mm for WA? If so, you have options.

The Ensinor 2.8/24 macro is a very nice lens. It is very sharp, with plenty of contrast and good colors. It is not well known, so you can get lucky in auctions. I got one on Ebay for under $50 and could not be happier. If you can find one, grab it.

There are also the 2.8 24mms made by Vivitar, Sigma, Tamron and Kiron--but these all fetch top $$ for what they are. However, you can still get them for under $100.
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I'm not sure why you bought the fish eye. If you're not sure either, you might consider selling that, save up some money and get a DA12-24/4 or a DA15/4.

A decent tripod and stitching panoramas (as suggested) is an alternative; but a decent tripod is probably more thatn US$100.

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In my opinion a fish eye is a highly specialised lens with limited (normal) use; it will be the last on my list of lenses to buy unless I can get a bargain.
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It depends on how much you are willing to spend the DA 16-45 seems to pop up on the marketplace for about 250 dollars -- it is probably the widest you can get on a budget. The DA 12-24 or a Sigma 10-20 would be more expensive yet. The problem as others mentioned is that you are using a crop sensor -- things that were pretty wide on film are suddenly more "normal" lenses on the crop sensor.
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I'm in 100% agreement with what Fractal posted above but would also like to offer this option-
If you can get your hands on a reasonably priced Tamron adaptall2 PKA adapter then you can start putting together a nice set of sharp & contrasty MF lenses on the cheap. Even so getting wider than 24mm under $100.00 probably isn't going to happen.
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