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06-14-2016, 01:40 PM   #1
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Items needed for b&w Developing

I'm trying to put together a kit for developing B&W film. I know most of the items I need, but some I don't. I would like to talk to a sales rep, ask them what I want to do, and order all of the supplies & gear from one place.

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Hello;

I ran my own darkroom for 20+ years, printed for photographers and set up and ran a few school traditional programs here in NYC. I would be happy to assist you. Do you want to tell me what you already have and I'll fill in the blanks or would you prefer I start from the beginning?


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Here's What I Think I Need

Thanks Chuck,


At this point in time, I only plan on shooting & developing B&W. Here is the list of what I think I need. A few of the items I have already. Everything I've listed is from B&H (On my Wish list)

I know I need a canister which will fit 2 reels.

  • Samigon Stainless Steel Tank with Plastic Lid for 2x35mm or 1x120 Reel B&H # SATSSLP120 MFR # ESA345 (Is this a good one?)

  • Dot Line DLC Film Cassette Opener B&H # DOCO MFR # DL-6060

  • 213I10 Karter Scientific 10ml Glass Graduated Cylinder, Single Metric Scale (I have one)

  • Glass Stirring Rod - 10" Long, 6 MM Diameter - 3 Pack (I have these as well)
  • Corning Pyrex Griffin Beaker Set 0f 5. ( I have these)

  • I'm going to bypass the squeegee & use clean micro-fiber cloth.

  • Temperature Gauge (I have a Weber Digital Gauge)

Chemicals:

  • DEVELOPER - Ilford Ilfosol-3 Film Developer for Black and White Film (500ml) B&H # ILI3500ML MFR # 1176108 ( I know this is not reusable. How many do you recommend? Does it also come in power form? I'll be developing 2 to 3 rolls a month.

  • STOP BATH - Ilford Ilfostop Stop Bath (500ml) B&H # ILISB500ML MFR # 1893870

  • FIXER - Ilford Rapid Fixer (Liquid,1 Liter) B&H # ILRFL MFR # 1984262

  • WETTING AGENT - Edwal LFN Wetting Agent for Black & White Film & Paper (3/4 oz) B&H # EDWALFN.75O MFR # EDLFN34 ( Do I need this? I see where some use dish soap)

  • Delta 1 Datatainer Chemical Storage Bottle 128-oz (One Gallon) B&H # DEDG MFR # 11140 - Do I need 2 or 3? Gallon Jugs to Recycle the chemicals I can use again.

  • And of course, more film: Ilford Delta 100 Professional Black and White Negative Film (35mm Roll Film, 36 Exposures) B&H # ILD10036 MFR # 1780624

Below is the film that I have & will be developing. I'm sure I'll be trying out a few other B&W types that the PF group might suggest.


Ilford XP-2 Super Sharp B/W Professional Film 400
Ilford HP-5 Plus 400 B/W Professional Film
Kodak 8292443 T-Max 100, Black/White Film 35mm
Kodak 8667073 Tri-X Pan 400 B/W Film, 35mm

I have a dark room with absolutely no light, so I won't be a changing bag.

If you think of anything else, ie, better film, canister, & so on. If so, please let me know & I'll be putting in my order from B&H.


Thanks again for the help.
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Hello,

Excuse the cut and paste.

Samigon Stainless Steel Tank with Plastic Lid for 2x35mm or 1x120 Reel B&H # SATSSLP120 MFR # ESA345 (Is this a good one?)

Yes

Dot Line DLC Film Cassette Opener B&H # DOCO MFR # DL-6060

Yes

213I10 Karter Scientific 10ml Glass Graduated Cylinder, Single Metric Scale (I have one)
Glass Stirring Rod - 10" Long, 6 MM Diameter - 3 Pack (I have these as well)
Corning Pyrex Griffin Beaker Set 0f 5. ( I have these)

Ok

I'm going to bypass the squeegee & use clean micro-fiber cloth.

I would not [and never did] touch wet film.

Temperature Gauge (I have a Weber Digital Gauge)

Accurate temperature is the key.

Chemicals:

DEVELOPER - Ilford Ilfosol-3 Film Developer for Black and White Film (500ml) B&H # ILI3500ML MFR # 1176108 ( I know this is not reusable. How many do you recommend? Does it also come in power form? I'll be developing 2 to 3 rolls a month.

Ilford Ilfosol is liquid only. Be careful storing chemistry, once open it ages poorly. D76 has been around for ages for a reason. I always experimented and always came back to it B&H # KOD76L

STOP BATH - Ilford Ilfostop Stop Bath (500ml) B&H # ILISB500ML MFR # 1893870

Ok, I used water. Make sure it's the same temp as your chemistry.

FIXER - Ilford Rapid Fixer (Liquid,1 Liter) B&H # ILRFL MFR # 1984262

Ok

WETTING AGENT - Edwal LFN Wetting Agent for Black & White Film & Paper (3/4 oz) B&H # EDWALFN.75O MFR # EDLFN34 ( Do I need this? I see where some use dish soap)

I never used a pre wetting agent but the Edwal is good.

Delta 1 Datatainer Chemical Storage Bottle 128-oz (One Gallon) B&H # DEDG MFR # 11140 - Do I need 2 or 3? Gallon Jugs to Recycle the chemicals I can use again.

I personally mixed what I needed and then dumped. I never saw the economic return on bulk mixing and storing of chemicals nor bulk film loading for that matter.

And of course, more film: Ilford Delta 100 Professional Black and White Negative Film (35mm Roll Film, 36 Exposures) B&H # ILD10036 MFR # 1780624

Great film.

Below is the film that I have & will be developing. I'm sure I'll be trying out a few other B&W types that the PF group might suggest.


Ilford XP-2 Super Sharp B/W Professional Film 400

This is C-41 process [color print film]. Mostly what I use now.

Ilford HP-5 Plus 400 B/W Professional Film

My most used B+W traditional film, I find it scans great as a well as B&H # AGAP6A4360

Kodak 8292443 T-Max 100, Black/White Film 35mm

My experience is Tmax film is very unforgiving to casual exposing and processing. If you're very exact in your methods, Tmax is a great. Me, I learned to burn and dodge really well .

Kodak 8667073 Tri-X Pan 400 B/W Film, 35mm

A CLASSIC

I have a dark room with absolutely no light, so I won't be a changing bag.

What is "absolutely no light" to your eye, is not the same with film. I would reconsider a changing bag and not risk finding out you have light leak.

If you think of anything else, ie, better film, canister, & so on. If so, please let me know & I'll be putting in my order from B&H.


1) Running water.
2) Clean place to hang and dry your film, a 36exp roll is approx 6ft in length.
3) Clothes pins to hang wet film.
4) B&H # BEBAR & B&H # PR357525 I was a 5exp cut guy, never liked 6 across.
5) B&H # KOPF200PQ Thsi will allow the film to dry evenly.

This should get you started, please let me know if you need anything else.

Good luck !

Chuck

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Hello,

This should get you started, please let me know if you need anything else.

Good luck !

Chuck
Thanks Chuck for all the help, I really do appreciate it.
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The Samigon Stainless Steel Tank with Plastic Lid for 2x35mm Doesn't come with reels. Can I use plastic reels with this or do I have to go with SS?
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Hello;

Generally speaking, plastic reels are made for specific tanks or tank systems [back in the day]. Use SS, they are better and once you get the hang of loading much faster.

Chuck

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Chuck,

Once again, thank you for your time & knowledge.

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Generally speaking, plastic reels are made for specific tanks or tank systems [back in the day]. Use SS, they are better and once you get the hang of loading much faster.

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