Flatten the film

sunshine7913 · 01-10-2015, 11:03 AM

Well I receive one roll of 120 film from Indie photo lab which is bad to me(ship with expensive package, bad service, and etc). When I open it, the film was rolled. idk what to do. How am I going to flat this film?

promacjoe · 01-10-2015, 12:05 PM

You don't, You loaded in the camera and let the camera do it. That's the normal way It's sold.

120 film - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe I don't understand what you mean. In which case, Could you explain it better.

**mattt** · 01-10-2015, 12:29 PM

Put the 120 negatives into an archival sleeve and store flat... in about a week the curl will be gone. It is common, particularly in B&W where the emulsion is applied to one side of the acetate, to have the film curl during drying, and it is also common for that acetate to have some memory of been rolled (which is probably the most economical way of shipping).

LesDMess · 01-10-2015, 03:48 PM

Some films flatten out after doing what Mattt recommended + with something heavy and flat (that won't leave an imprint) on it.
Flatten for scanning? Depending on scanner, some filmhioders come with glass that will flatten it for scanning.

AquaDome · 01-10-2015, 04:24 PM

It is better to receive the rolled negatives than to have them cut through one of the frames.

redrockcoulee · 01-10-2015, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by mattt

Put the 120 negatives into an archival sleeve and store flat... in about a week the curl will be gone. It is common, particularly in B&W where the emulsion is applied to one side of the acetate, to have the film curl during drying, and it is also common for that acetate to have some memory of been rolled (which is probably the most economical way of shipping).

Some films curl more than others. One is supposed to have a number of books on photographers to place the sheet of negatives under

sunshine7913 · 01-11-2015, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by AquaDome

It is better to receive the rolled negatives than to have them cut through one of the frames.

They are lazy to do that process...

**baro-nite** · 01-13-2015, 04:33 PM

I don't have a local E-6 option so when I get mine back it comes rolled. Sometimes I roll it the other way and put it back in the tube in came in for a few hours to start straightening it. Then cut it into strips and flatten as Matt suggests.

sunshine7913 · 01-13-2015, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by baro-nite

I don't have a local E-6 option so when I get mine back it comes rolled. Sometimes I roll it the other way and put it back in the tube in came in for a few hours to start straightening it. Then cut it into strips and flatten as Matt suggests.

Oh thanks a lot! It works!

**fs999** · 01-16-2015, 07:51 AM

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**gofour3** · 01-23-2015, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by baro-nite

I don't have a local E-6 option so when I get mine back it comes rolled. Sometimes I roll it the other way and put it back in the tube in came in for a few hours to start straightening it. Then cut it into strips and flatten as Matt suggests.

Labs won’t mount 120 slide film, so I get my E6 back from the processing rolled up just like colour or b&w negatives.

Phil.

**baro-nite** · 01-23-2015, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

Labs won’t mount 120 slide film, so I get my E6 back from the processing rolled up just like colour or b&w negatives.

Right, but with a local lab it is possible to get the film uncut and unrolled, in a sleeve. At least it is in my case.

stevebrot · 01-23-2015, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by AquaDome

It is better to receive the rolled negatives than to have them cut through one of the frames.

What he said. I always insist that the lab not cut, but send my the negatives as one long strip. As noted above, some films are more prone to curl than others. I was shooting Rollei Retro 100 (Agfa APX 100 stock confectioned as Rollei) and severe film curl was the rule regardless of how it was managed...

Fortunately, the curl was less severe with higher humidity. With 120 curl is less a problem. The key to film flatness is a good negative holder for scanning or enlarging.

Steve

stevebrot · 01-23-2015, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by baro-nite

Right, but with a local lab it is possible to get the film uncut and unrolled, in a sleeve. At least it is in my case.

Mine come uncut and in a long sleeve, though rolling is required to get it into the box so that it can be stored and handled.

Steve

**gofour3** · 01-23-2015, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by baro-nite

Right, but with a local lab it is possible to get the film uncut and unrolled, in a sleeve. At least it is in my case.

Yep my lab does the same and puts the uncut 120 roll in a sleeve. They used to cut and mount the strips in an archival sheet, but that got too costly.

I did ask about mounting 120 slides but they are also too expensive and the machine only does 135 slide mounts.

Phil.

---------- Post added 01-23-15 at 02:59 PM ----------

Originally posted by stevebrot

Mine come uncut and in a long sleeve, though rolling is required to get it into the box so that it can be stored and handled.

Steve

Yep same here.

Phil

01-10-2015, 11:03 AM	#1
sunshine7913 Guest	Flatten the film Well I receive one roll of 120 film from Indie photo lab which is bad to me(ship with expensive package, bad service, and etc). When I open it, the film was rolled. idk what to do. How am I going to flat this film?

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01-10-2015, 12:05 PM	#2
promacjoe Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 340	You don't, You loaded in the camera and let the camera do it. That's the normal way It's sold. 120 film - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Maybe I don't understand what you mean. In which case, Could you explain it better.

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mattt Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,907	Put the 120 negatives into an archival sleeve and store flat... in about a week the curl will be gone. It is common, particularly in B&W where the emulsion is applied to one side of the acetate, to have the film curl during drying, and it is also common for that acetate to have some memory of been rolled (which is probably the most economical way of shipping).

01-10-2015, 03:48 PM	#4
LesDMess Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,235	Some films flatten out after doing what Mattt recommended + with something heavy and flat (that won't leave an imprint) on it. Flatten for scanning? Depending on scanner, some filmhioders come with glass that will flatten it for scanning.

01-10-2015, 04:24 PM	#5
AquaDome Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New Carlisle, IN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,475	It is better to receive the rolled negatives than to have them cut through one of the frames.

01-10-2015, 09:12 PM	#6
redrockcoulee Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: 2,306	Originally posted by mattt Put the 120 negatives into an archival sleeve and store flat... in about a week the curl will be gone. It is common, particularly in B&W where the emulsion is applied to one side of the acetate, to have the film curl during drying, and it is also common for that acetate to have some memory of been rolled (which is probably the most economical way of shipping). Some films curl more than others. One is supposed to have a number of books on photographers to place the sheet of negatives under

01-11-2015, 10:39 PM	#7
sunshine7913 Guest	Originally posted by AquaDome It is better to receive the rolled negatives than to have them cut through one of the frames. They are lazy to do that process...

01-13-2015, 04:33 PM	#8
baro-nite Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Carolina, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,295	I don't have a local E-6 option so when I get mine back it comes rolled. Sometimes I roll it the other way and put it back in the tube in came in for a few hours to start straightening it. Then cut it into strips and flatten as Matt suggests.

01-13-2015, 06:24 PM	#9
sunshine7913 Guest	Originally posted by baro-nite I don't have a local E-6 option so when I get mine back it comes rolled. Sometimes I roll it the other way and put it back in the tube in came in for a few hours to start straightening it. Then cut it into strips and flatten as Matt suggests. Oh thanks a lot! It works!

01-16-2015, 07:51 AM	#10
fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,645	betterscanning.com

01-23-2015, 11:25 AM	#11
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by baro-nite I don't have a local E-6 option so when I get mine back it comes rolled. Sometimes I roll it the other way and put it back in the tube in came in for a few hours to start straightening it. Then cut it into strips and flatten as Matt suggests. Labs won’t mount 120 slide film, so I get my E6 back from the processing rolled up just like colour or b&w negatives. Phil.

01-23-2015, 11:32 AM	#12
baro-nite Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Carolina, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,295	Originally posted by gofour3 Labs won’t mount 120 slide film, so I get my E6 back from the processing rolled up just like colour or b&w negatives. Right, but with a local lab it is possible to get the film uncut and unrolled, in a sleeve. At least it is in my case.

01-23-2015, 12:29 PM	#13
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by AquaDome It is better to receive the rolled negatives than to have them cut through one of the frames. What he said. I always insist that the lab not cut, but send my the negatives as one long strip. As noted above, some films are more prone to curl than others. I was shooting Rollei Retro 100 (Agfa APX 100 stock confectioned as Rollei) and severe film curl was the rule regardless of how it was managed... Fortunately, the curl was less severe with higher humidity. With 120 curl is less a problem. The key to film flatness is a good negative holder for scanning or enlarging. Steve

01-23-2015, 12:31 PM	#14
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by baro-nite Right, but with a local lab it is possible to get the film uncut and unrolled, in a sleeve. At least it is in my case. Mine come uncut and in a long sleeve, though rolling is required to get it into the box so that it can be stored and handled. Steve

01-23-2015, 03:59 PM	#15
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by baro-nite Right, but with a local lab it is possible to get the film uncut and unrolled, in a sleeve. At least it is in my case. Yep my lab does the same and puts the uncut 120 roll in a sleeve. They used to cut and mount the strips in an archival sheet, but that got too costly. I did ask about mounting 120 slides but they are also too expensive and the machine only does 135 slide mounts. Phil. ---------- Post added 01-23-15 at 02:59 PM ---------- Originally posted by stevebrot Mine come uncut and in a long sleeve, though rolling is required to get it into the box so that it can be stored and handled. Steve Yep same here. Phil