Ilford XP2: Special Instructions to Photo Lab?

butangmucat · 09-15-2016, 03:21 PM

Hello,

I am about to send a few rolls of Ilford XP2 along with some Kodak Ektar 100 for development and scan. Do I need any special instructions for these XP2s?

Sincerely

Halide · 09-15-2016, 03:42 PM

No special instructions required. XP2 is a chromogenic black and white film that is made for development in the same chemistry (C41), as normal colour negative film like Ektar.

butangmucat · 09-15-2016, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Halide

No special instructions required. XP2 is a chromogenic black and white film that is made for development in the same chemistry (C41), as normal colour negative film like Ektar.

I know this, but I have heard that the Ilford XP2 doesn't have an orange base and can cause some color drifts when printed, does this apply to scanning too?

**Alex645** · 09-15-2016, 05:27 PM - **1 Like**

XP2 scans BEAUTIFULLY, and the lack of orange stain is only problematic for RA-4 photographic paper printed the traditional way.

LesDMess · 09-15-2016, 08:40 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by butangmucat

I know this, but I have heard that the Ilford XP2 doesn't have an orange base and can cause some color drifts when printed, does this apply to scanning too?

That's correct and as a b&w film, it will be scanned as a b&w. The advantage is that if the scanner has ICE (IR dust and scratch removal) it can be applied. Chromogenic b&w films have been around for a long time now and should not surpise anyone. But an inexperienced operator may be out there.

butangmucat · 09-17-2016, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by LesDMess

That's correct and as a b&w film, it will be scanned as a b&w. The advantage is that if the scanner has ICE (IR dust and scratch removal) it can be applied. Chromogenic b&w films have been around for a long time now and should not surpise anyone. But an inexperienced operator may be out there.

So I wrote Ilford XP2: develop C-41, scan B&W. Is this correct?

**Alex645** · 09-17-2016, 09:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by butangmucat

So I wrote Ilford XP2: develop C-41, scan B&W. Is this correct?

Yes, thatʻs right. Worse case scenario: they will scan it RGB (color) and then you will get a monochromatic toned looking scan. You can always convert it yourself to greyscale.

kain · 10-05-2016, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by LesDMess

That's correct and as a b&w film, it will be scanned as a b&w. The advantage is that if the scanner has ICE (IR dust and scratch removal) it can be applied. Chromogenic b&w films have been around for a long time now and should not surpise anyone. But an inexperienced operator may be out there.

IR channel removal only works on color films due to the different reflectivity of B&W film. Most B&W film has reflectivity in the IR channel, which color films do not. (Thus the usability of the IR trick.)

LesDMess · 10-05-2016, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by kain

IR channel removal only works on color films due to the different reflectivity of B&W film. Most B&W film has reflectivity in the IR channel, which color films do not. (Thus the usability of the IR trick.)

The reflectivity you state is the silver in true b&w film and that is incompatible with IR based dust and scratch removal in scanners. However, the film the OP is referring to is a chromogenic b&w film - processed in C41 chemistry, and can be scanned using IR dust and scratch.

09-15-2016, 03:21 PM	#1
butangmucat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 709	Ilford XP2: Special Instructions to Photo Lab? Hello, I am about to send a few rolls of Ilford XP2 along with some Kodak Ektar 100 for development and scan. Do I need any special instructions for these XP2s? Sincerely

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09-15-2016, 03:42 PM	#2
Halide Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 26	No special instructions required. XP2 is a chromogenic black and white film that is made for development in the same chemistry (C41), as normal colour negative film like Ektar.

09-15-2016, 03:59 PM	#3
butangmucat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 709 Original Poster	Originally posted by Halide No special instructions required. XP2 is a chromogenic black and white film that is made for development in the same chemistry (C41), as normal colour negative film like Ektar. I know this, but I have heard that the Ilford XP2 doesn't have an orange base and can cause some color drifts when printed, does this apply to scanning too?

09-15-2016, 05:27 PM - 1 Like	#4
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,526	XP2 scans BEAUTIFULLY, and the lack of orange stain is only problematic for RA-4 photographic paper printed the traditional way.

09-15-2016, 08:40 PM - 1 Like	#5
LesDMess Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,235	Originally posted by butangmucat I know this, but I have heard that the Ilford XP2 doesn't have an orange base and can cause some color drifts when printed, does this apply to scanning too? That's correct and as a b&w film, it will be scanned as a b&w. The advantage is that if the scanner has ICE (IR dust and scratch removal) it can be applied. Chromogenic b&w films have been around for a long time now and should not surpise anyone. But an inexperienced operator may be out there.

09-17-2016, 08:49 PM	#6
butangmucat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 709 Original Poster	Originally posted by LesDMess That's correct and as a b&w film, it will be scanned as a b&w. The advantage is that if the scanner has ICE (IR dust and scratch removal) it can be applied. Chromogenic b&w films have been around for a long time now and should not surpise anyone. But an inexperienced operator may be out there. So I wrote Ilford XP2: develop C-41, scan B&W. Is this correct?

09-17-2016, 09:13 PM - 1 Like	#7
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,526	Originally posted by butangmucat So I wrote Ilford XP2: develop C-41, scan B&W. Is this correct? Yes, thatʻs right. Worse case scenario: they will scan it RGB (color) and then you will get a monochromatic toned looking scan. You can always convert it yourself to greyscale.

10-05-2016, 04:04 PM	#8
kain Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 162	Originally posted by LesDMess That's correct and as a b&w film, it will be scanned as a b&w. The advantage is that if the scanner has ICE (IR dust and scratch removal) it can be applied. Chromogenic b&w films have been around for a long time now and should not surpise anyone. But an inexperienced operator may be out there. IR channel removal only works on color films due to the different reflectivity of B&W film. Most B&W film has reflectivity in the IR channel, which color films do not. (Thus the usability of the IR trick.)

10-05-2016, 09:35 PM	#9
LesDMess Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,235	Originally posted by kain IR channel removal only works on color films due to the different reflectivity of B&W film. Most B&W film has reflectivity in the IR channel, which color films do not. (Thus the usability of the IR trick.) The reflectivity you state is the silver in true b&w film and that is incompatible with IR based dust and scratch removal in scanners. However, the film the OP is referring to is a chromogenic b&w film - processed in C41 chemistry, and can be scanned using IR dust and scratch.

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