Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version 2 Likes Search this Thread
03-04-2018, 10:21 PM   #1
Veteran Member




Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 788
Easier spool loading?

I haven’t processed film since the 90s, and I was wondering is there is anything easier to spool up 35mm than my metal spools and developing can these days? I haven’t tried yet, but I always hated spooling those things. Do the plastic spools work better? Other options?

03-04-2018, 11:11 PM   #2
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
smigol's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Menlo Park, CA
Photos: Albums
Posts: 422
I gave up on the plastic spools and went to metal.

The plastic are fun at first, but soon get gummed up with emulsion.

Since I have started doing C41 and E6, I'm glad for switching to metal as I understand the plastic will stain.
03-04-2018, 11:13 PM - 2 Likes   #3
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Alex645's Avatar

Join Date: May 2015
Location: Kaneohe, HI
Photos: Albums
Posts: 3,527
QuoteOriginally posted by abruzzi Quote
I haven’t processed film since the 90s, and I was wondering is there is anything easier to spool up 35mm than my metal spools and developing can these days? Do the plastic spools work better?
Iʻve been using plastic spools for 35mm and 120 film since 1972 and teaching film photography since 1992 and Iʻve always found plastic spools and reels easier than metal. Purists still insist that metal is superior (the theory being less chemical leaching), but for ease of loading, I havenʻt found anything as easy and reliable as plastic and have zero regrets using them.

Paterson Universal Tank with Two Reels - Super System 4 | Freestyle Photographic Supplies

Iʻve probably taught 2-3 thousand teenagers how to develop film by hand, and everyone on their first assignment successfully (more or less) gets the plastic right. I canʻt say the same with metal which takes more skill.
03-05-2018, 12:20 AM   #4
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central Coast, CA
Posts: 1,320
I used only stainless steel reels for decades and was able to load a 36 shot roll in 20 seconds. The plastic used in plastic reels in the 60's and 70's did get stained when used which generated concern. I now use Patterson plastic reels. Make sure they are dry before using them. I don't a lot of developing but they haven't stained for me so far. I no longer develop color and if I did I might have a separate set up just in case.

03-05-2018, 01:12 AM   #5
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
twilhelm's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Florida
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,369
I develop C41 and black and white, utilizing both metal and plastic reels. I personally don’t have a preference, but can see where plastic reels are easier to load.
03-05-2018, 01:37 AM   #6
Pentaxian




Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Sydney
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 916
I swear by the Samigon:
Samigon Multi-Format Autofeed Reel ESA325 B&H Photo Video
03-05-2018, 07:36 AM   #7
Veteran Member




Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 788
Original Poster
Sounds like I’m just going to have to suck it up and get good at it. I still have my stainless spools and canister from 25 years ago. Maybe see how it goes before trying the plastic spools. I was hoping someone had invented a better system in the intervening time.

03-05-2018, 07:52 AM   #8
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
UncleVanya's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2014
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 28,476
I preferred plastic when I was developing. I never found emulsion gunk on my reels and they never stained. I didn't do any color only B&W and mostly in the 1980's.
03-05-2018, 09:32 AM   #9
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
ChrisPlatt's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rockaway Beach NYC
Posts: 7,702
I use A-P brand plastic tanks and reels, also sold by Freestyle as their Arista Premium line.
Paterson Super System IV are good as well, like most Paterson products.

35mm film loading on plastic reels is fairly easy, though thin-based films can be troublesome.
Confidence gained through practice and a relaxed environment (seated at table) help.
A large changing bag and very dry reels (use a hair dryer) also make things much easier.

Chris
03-05-2018, 11:05 AM   #10
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 1,446
For 35mm - Hewes stainless. Catch the sprocket holes on a couple of "fingers" at the center of the spiral and wind away. I used Nikor reels for 40 years and thought they were fine, but the Hewes Re better for the variety of film thicknesses around today.
I gave up on plastic decades ago as too fiddly when wet and doing many rolls.
03-10-2018, 09:48 AM   #11
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Pugetopolis
Posts: 11,033
SS reels can be difficult at times. A couple of tips. Sacrifice a roll and practice in the daylight over and over. Cut a small 45 degree chamfer on the loading end of the film. Practice that too. If it is cold, warm up the reels with a hair dryer.

While you wrap the film on the reel, push the film back and forth after each wrap. You should feel no binding as the film tightens and expands in the windings of the reel. If it moves freely by time to get to the end, you can have confidence that the film is not touching somewhere in the wrap.

If a reel is constantly a problem loading, get rid of it and buy a new one.
03-12-2018, 08:21 AM   #12
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
fs999's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 8,650
I use Jobo unitank system 1500 in different sizes, since the late 70's with a pause in the 90's, but they are still working well...
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
film, photography, spool

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do I need to rewind my 127 film onto the purchased film spool? Aegon Pentax Medium Format 8 09-14-2017 11:20 AM
Pentax MX film advance, not on spool? RustyT Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 8 08-30-2017 01:42 PM
Pentax k1000 : having trouble with spool!! makgbs Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 3 05-21-2017 08:02 AM
I love my ME. I hate the take up spool. MV/MG the same? Bootleg Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 37 03-10-2014 07:54 PM
K-5 SR spool times FAST telfish Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 30 10-22-2010 06:31 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:33 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top