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04-22-2018, 12:19 PM   #16
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I see nothing unusual here, you should see Christopher Burkett's darkroom O.O The man shoot large format and do magnificent 40x50 cibachrome colour prints.
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Film processing is very rewarding, it always makes me smile when I open the tank and see the negative.
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Ummmmm...me

Thank you for these perspectives. I should have recalled that photography today covers the ENTIRE range of possibilities. It does appear that it could be rewarding to do film processing. It is very hard for me to imagine myself using this gear and actually achieving something remotely useable, however.

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It is very hard for me to imagine myself using this gear and actually achieving something remotely useable, however.
It is not too hard. I mastered the basics of wet printing (self-taught) in my first year of high school almost 50 years ago. The cool thing about traditional film photography and darkroom printing is how much it teaches one about digital capture and digital PP. The two are directly comparable for most practical purposes. They don't call it "Lightroom" (a word play on "darkroom") for nothing.


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I still own the Philips PCS 130/150 Tri-one-colour with two lenses the Componon f/5.6 80mm and the Rodenstok Rodagon f/2.8 50mm
That enlarger looks interesting. It says correct color out of the box. That would be awesome. When I did color, it wasn't much fun as BW for me. All night just to get a few prints due to trial and error to get the color right. Eventually, I got this color analyzer. It helped but it was still a lot of work. You had to calibrate it for each film brand you used and that meant making a bunch of prints and you deciding if that was good color. And when your enlarger light bulb needed replacing you had to do it all over again. But still it was rewarding. I still use the analyzer to measure densities of my BW negatives now and then via a hack.


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I still own the Philips PCS 130/150 Tri-one-colour with two lenses the Componon f/5.6 80mm and the Rodenstok Rodagon f/2.8 50mm,
I sold the PCS-130 control unit and color analyzer, maybe now I will print in B/W

Besides the B/W I worked a lot with the Cibachrome and an Agfa acetate support that disappeared shortly after, with the Cibachrome you get very bright and saturated colors.

Unfortunately the digital is erasing a bit of all this.
This is the enlarger I'm using. Was actually using it today. I like that I can adjust the contrast on the 150 control unit without using filters or altering the exposure time. I use an El Nikkor 50mm f/2.8 for 35mm negs and a cheap Aico 75mm f/3.5 for 6x6. I was lucky enough to obtain condensers for 6x6 and 6x7 but I struggle keeping 6x6 negs flat because the holder is glassless.

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That enlarger looks interesting. It says correct color out of the box. That would be awesome. When I did color, it wasn't much fun as BW for me.
All night just to get a few prints due to trial and error to get the color right. Eventually, I got this color analyzer. It helped but it was still a lot of work.
You had to calibrate it for each film brand you used and that meant making a bunch of prints and you deciding if that was good color.
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This is the enlarger I'm using. Was actually using it today. I like that I can adjust the contrast on the 150 control unit without using filters or altering the exposure time.
I use an El Nikkor 50mm f/2.8 for 35mm negs and a cheap Aico 75mm f/3.5 for 6x6. I was lucky enough to obtain condensers for 6x6 and 6x7 but I struggle keeping 6x6 negs flat because the holder is glassless.
It's nice to hear and see that analog photography is still widely loved by many admirers, and rightly so.
That of tuco the Beseler, I think is a enlarger along the lines of the first models Durst a company of Bolzano IT, which produced and / or produces
beautiful magnifiers to which you could insert gelatin filters,
later with the advent of electronics Durst have been transformed and then the following models used color heads and analyzers without gelatin filters (difficult to handle).

The Philips PCS-130 + PCS150 had three internal lamps each filtering the light of the RGB primary colours and working in subtractive synthesis with the support of the PCA060 colour analyzer.
I think I remember that. But the result, especially on glossy paper, provided color prints that were impeccably colorful.
The fun was to sample the prints and it was necessary to do a lot of tests because although the analyzer was well calibrated it sometimes gave results that differed from the CMY+K colors. Hours and hours.....








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