Popular Science tours the Kodak factory

murrelet · 06-13-2018, 07:41 AM - **3 Likes**

Inside the facility where Kodak brings film back to life

This is amazing. Puts some perspective what effort is involved to bring small batch films like JCH Street Pan and Ferrania P30 to market.

normhead · 06-13-2018, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by murrelet

Inside the facility where Kodak brings film back to life

This is amazing. Puts some perspective what effort is involved to bring small batch films like JCH Street Pan and Ferrania P30 to market.

Reminds me of one of my fellow students who got a job in a colour lab back in 67. He had used night vision goggles before the rest of us had even heard of them.

**gofour3** · 06-13-2018, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by murrelet

Inside the facility where Kodak brings film back to life

This is amazing. Puts some perspective what effort is involved to bring small batch films like JCH Street Pan and Ferrania P30 to market.

Interesting, thanks for posting!

Phil.

LensBeginner · 06-13-2018, 08:32 AM

Thanks for sharing.
A nice feature, with interesting and well-executed pictures.
I was a little put off by the comparison between the "digital picture" and the "film exposure" in the beginning... they at least had the decency of not drawing any conclusions, because how they did it it's just a case of not knowing how to do a proper WB...

**ChrisPlatt** · 06-13-2018, 10:08 AM

Thanks for posting this. I just posted a link to the story over at RFF as well.

Chris

**Alex645** · 06-13-2018, 01:08 PM

I am actually amazed at how small scale things are relative to my imagination. Growing up in the sixties, I imagined the rockets at Cape Canaveral that launched men into orbit as HUGE. I imagined the Russian Sputnik satellite to be the size of a car. I was shocked when I saw the actual size as being much smaller than my television-based imagination.

The same is true with the Eastman Kodak factory. Yes, it's not small, but somehow I envisioned a football field sized hangar building with hundreds of workers. Love the photos that bring it all down to scale.

rdj92807 · 06-13-2018, 01:08 PM

Can't wait to buy some!!

tvdtvdtvd · 06-13-2018, 08:12 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Alex645

I am actually amazed at how small scale things are relative to my imagination.

I'd say it looks like a pretty sizable venture, especially considering the relatively niche market of film in the present day.
Kudos to those keeping it alive.

Paul the Sunman · 06-13-2018, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by murrelet

Inside the facility where Kodak brings film back to life

Can't be viewed from Australia. It's force-redirected to Home | Australian Popular Science, which doesn't seem to carry the story.

LensBeginner · 06-14-2018, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

Can't be viewed from Australia. It's force-redirected to Home | Australian Popular Science, which doesn't seem to carry the story.

Have you tried using a proxy? There's no videos or other "heavy" content, so it should work even with free ones.

reh321 · 06-14-2018, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by LensBeginner

Have you tried using a proxy? There's no videos or other "heavy" content, so it should work even with free ones.

Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome??

LensBeginner · 06-14-2018, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome??

My point is that the digital picture looks unappealing, and it could have been better with a slightly different WB.
I don't want to say this was done on purpose, but...

**Alex645** · 06-14-2018, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome??

Kodachrome did have a bit more saturation than Ektachrome, especially in the reds. Overall Ektachrome (other than the VS variant) was more neutral/realistic/accurate. Part of the rise of Fujichrome, was not just price, but also an even greater saturation in the greens and blues than Ektachrome.

Originally posted by LensBeginner

My point is that the digital picture looks unappealing, and it could have been better with a slightly different WB.
I don't want to say this was done on purpose, but...

Yes, I agree here and I can't help but think it was intentional. They even state that they edited the Ektachrome image, but the digital comparison looks RAW and unedited.

LensBeginner · 06-14-2018, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Alex645

*snip*

Yes, I agree here and I can't help but think it was intentional. They even state that they edited the Ektachrome image, but the digital comparison looks RAW and unedited.

In their defence I must say they clearly stated they did that because the film stock was expired.

**gofour3** · 06-14-2018, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome??

I never liked the old Ektachrome and always shot Kodachrome, it always looked better (the colours) and had a much longer storage life.

However the newer Ektachrome (E100G & E100GX, E100VS) were much better, but no slide film will ever be as pleasing to me as Kodachrome.

Phil.

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06-13-2018, 08:12 AM	#2
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by murrelet Inside the facility where Kodak brings film back to life This is amazing. Puts some perspective what effort is involved to bring small batch films like JCH Street Pan and Ferrania P30 to market. Reminds me of one of my fellow students who got a job in a colour lab back in 67. He had used night vision goggles before the rest of us had even heard of them.

06-13-2018, 08:28 AM	#3
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by murrelet Inside the facility where Kodak brings film back to life This is amazing. Puts some perspective what effort is involved to bring small batch films like JCH Street Pan and Ferrania P30 to market. Interesting, thanks for posting! Phil.

06-13-2018, 08:32 AM	#4
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Thanks for sharing. A nice feature, with interesting and well-executed pictures. I was a little put off by the comparison between the "digital picture" and the "film exposure" in the beginning... they at least had the decency of not drawing any conclusions, because how they did it it's just a case of not knowing how to do a proper WB...

06-13-2018, 10:08 AM	#5
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,696	Thanks for posting this. I just posted a link to the story over at RFF as well. Chris

06-13-2018, 01:08 PM	#6
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,526	I am actually amazed at how small scale things are relative to my imagination. Growing up in the sixties, I imagined the rockets at Cape Canaveral that launched men into orbit as HUGE. I imagined the Russian Sputnik satellite to be the size of a car. I was shocked when I saw the actual size as being much smaller than my television-based imagination. The same is true with the Eastman Kodak factory. Yes, it's not small, but somehow I envisioned a football field sized hangar building with hundreds of workers. Love the photos that bring it all down to scale.

06-13-2018, 01:08 PM	#7
rdj92807 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 97	Can't wait to buy some!!

06-13-2018, 08:12 PM - 1 Like	#8
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by Alex645 I am actually amazed at how small scale things are relative to my imagination. I'd say it looks like a pretty sizable venture, especially considering the relatively niche market of film in the present day. Kudos to those keeping it alive.

06-13-2018, 11:31 PM	#9
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,846	Originally posted by murrelet Inside the facility where Kodak brings film back to life Can't be viewed from Australia. It's force-redirected to Home \| Australian Popular Science, which doesn't seem to carry the story.

06-14-2018, 01:01 AM	#10
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman Can't be viewed from Australia. It's force-redirected to Home \| Australian Popular Science, which doesn't seem to carry the story. Have you tried using a proxy? There's no videos or other "heavy" content, so it should work even with free ones.

06-14-2018, 07:19 AM	#11
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by LensBeginner Have you tried using a proxy? There's no videos or other "heavy" content, so it should work even with free ones. Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome??

06-14-2018, 07:28 AM	#12
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by reh321 Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome?? My point is that the digital picture looks unappealing, and it could have been better with a slightly different WB. I don't want to say this was done on purpose, but...

06-14-2018, 10:40 AM	#13
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,526	Originally posted by reh321 Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome?? Kodachrome did have a bit more saturation than Ektachrome, especially in the reds. Overall Ektachrome (other than the VS variant) was more neutral/realistic/accurate. Part of the rise of Fujichrome, was not just price, but also an even greater saturation in the greens and blues than Ektachrome. Originally posted by LensBeginner My point is that the digital picture looks unappealing, and it could have been better with a slightly different WB. I don't want to say this was done on purpose, but... Yes, I agree here and I can't help but think it was intentional. They even state that they edited the Ektachrome image, but the digital comparison looks RAW and unedited.

06-14-2018, 11:26 AM	#14
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by Alex645 snip Yes, I agree here and I can't help but think it was intentional. They even state that they edited the Ektachrome image, but the digital comparison looks RAW and unedited. In their defence I must say they clearly stated they did that because the film stock was expired.

06-14-2018, 11:29 AM	#15
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by reh321 Was 'cooler' Ektachrome really more "accurate" than 'warmer 'Kodachrome?? I never liked the old Ektachrome and always shot Kodachrome, it always looked better (the colours) and had a much longer storage life. However the newer Ektachrome (E100G & E100GX, E100VS) were much better, but no slide film will ever be as pleasing to me as Kodachrome. Phil.