Originally posted by Wheatfield Yeah, I couldn't remember if it was longer or shorter, hotter or colder. CD-3 is designed to give better results with reversal film, which is no surprise since motion picture film is designed as a pseudo reversal film. We found that if we cleaned up the stuff and ran it normally through C-41 chemistry it produced Ok prints on paper, and frankly, the stuff that was processed by Seattle Film Works never produced particularly good prints either.
My guess is that the OP is scanning, not wet printing, and with this in mind, I expect he would be better served by a low contrast C-41 film that he didn't have to jump through as many hoops to get lowball development from. I can'
t see an ECN-2 lab that is serving the public getting enough volume to keep chemistry even remotely close to being in control, and I can't see a motion picture lab risking their chemistry on unknown film coming in off the street.
I am the OP, and yes, I do scan my film.
At least here in China, you have two options:
- Some of the smaller film works who have survived from the planned economy era now takes indie film orders and stills orders, but they aggregate the latter orders before processing, yielding long turnaround times.
- Some professional labs, like the ones I have, can properly maintain and process ECN-2, but only by small-scale hand processing using something similar to a tabletop processing kit. They presumably uses powder chemicals.
I have emailed The Camera Shop, which sounds most likely to have proper ECN-2 based on small-scale hand processing.
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Originally posted by Wheatfield Yeah, I couldn't remember if it was longer or shorter, hotter or colder. CD-3 is designed to give better results with reversal film, which is no surprise since motion picture film is designed as a pseudo reversal film. We found that if we cleaned up the stuff and ran it normally through C-41 chemistry it produced Ok prints on paper, and frankly, the stuff that was processed by Seattle Film Works never produced particularly good prints either.
My guess is that the OP is scanning, not wet printing, and with this in mind, I expect he would be better served by a low contrast C-41 film that he didn't have to jump through as many hoops to get lowball development from. I can'
t see an ECN-2 lab that is serving the public getting enough volume to keep chemistry even remotely close to being in control, and I can't see a motion picture lab risking their chemistry on unknown film coming in off the street.
I shot some CineStill before moving to vanilla VISION3 films, and have noticed the color shift.
I have also asked my friends who have more experience in film, and they told me that older ECN-2 films are not as sensitive to the difference between CD-3 and CD-4, but VISION3 stock are very sensitive, and can easily yield garbage if cross processed, no darkroom or digital post can correct that.
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