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07-05-2021, 12:28 PM - 1 Like   #31
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I have an ancient bottle of B&W print retouching fluid somewhere. As I recall the came in a variety of tones - neutral/cool/warm grays and sepia tones.

As I recall some polycontrast papers like Seagull tended to cool grays, Kodak more neutral.

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I use to use Kodak's Fine Art Elite fiber base paper with no archive toning to get rich BW prints that look like a neutral enough grey scale to me.
Dang! I loved that stuff and have several prints made on it hanging in my home.


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The silver particles can have different sizes and degrees of aggregation. This affects the tone of the print: smaller is brown and larger is neutral or cold (bluish) black. Some fine grain film negatives are brown because they are so fine grained. This is independent of any staining.
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All those posts are interesting, meaning there is no really such thing as standard black & white, look and tone all vary depending on mix of various things, like cooking, every B&W print to be seasoned to taste

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All those posts are interesting, meaning there is no really such thing as standard black & white, look and tone all vary depending on mix of various things, like cooking, every B&W print to be seasoned to taste
Back in the film days, the classic portfolio head shot for someone in show business was an 8x10 BW glossy RC print. That was kind of unwritten standard, I think.
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Back in the film days, the classic portfolio head shot for someone in show business was an 8x10 BW glossy RC print.

yes I recall that standard, Contact sheets are typically printed on gloss (sometimes Pearl) media to replicate the output on Magazine paper. Contact prints were popular with large formats .Large scale prints were somewhat of a rarity due to the size of the trays or drums needed to process them.
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Does the print still smell coffee after the print is finished?
No the fixer removes the coffee smell

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