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**jpzk** · 10-05-2010, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by ManuH

I had to deal with a few repairs and I think it's faster shipping the defective product to Pentax Canada directly than to go through the store where you purchased it. The downside is that you have to pay the postage to send it (but the return is free) and to pack the thing correctly. I've sent my DA* 16-50mm 2 times that way and my K20D and it was always relatively fast (2-3 weeks max.). The K-7 I returned through the store, I waited almost 5 weeks.

In that case, it looks like doing your own shipping is worth the effort in the end.
I'll keep that in mind if this is something I ever have to do.

JP

**jpzk** · 10-05-2010, 06:10 PM

Has anyone ever ordered a camera from the USA, had a problem with it and ran into warranty problems because we are in Canada? Or it could have been a lens?

I'm asking this because in spite of the really close exchange rate between the USA and Canada, as we speak, I notice that most of the time the prices are way better "down there".

JP

bobmaxja · 10-05-2010, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

Has anyone ever ordered a camera from the USA, had a problem with it and ran into warranty problems because we are in Canada? Or it could have been a lens?

I'm asking this because in spite of the really close exchange rate between the USA and Canada, as we speak, I notice that most of the time the prices are way better "down there".

JP

Bought my K-X kit from Newegg.ca but camera is from the USA and took the extended warranty . But everything is perfect up to now. Newegg was a lot cheaper last April than anybody else for the K-X . Now no advantage anymore

aleonx3 · 10-05-2010, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

Has anyone ever ordered a camera from the USA, had a problem with it and ran into warranty problems because we are in Canada? Or it could have been a lens?

I'm asking this because in spite of the really close exchange rate between the USA and Canada, as we speak, I notice that most of the time the prices are way better "down there".

JP

With the current exchange rate, you can certainly save some money to shop from the USA. The only problem is the warranty which is reduced to 1-year instead of 2-years. If you use the benefit of the topping 1-year extra on your credit card (some do), you will be ahead of the game. If I have to purchase from Canada, Prodigital2000 would be the least expensive option.

bobmaxja · 10-06-2010, 03:36 AM

Wow, major difference with Pro Digital
Thanks

**ManuH** · 10-06-2010, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by aleonx3

The only problem is the warranty which is reduced to 1-year instead of 2-years.

Not only. Since one year or two Pentax Canada now ask a flat rate of 50$ for any international repair. It's written on their website. They probably were fed up to assume the repairs for stuff they didn't make any money on.

**jpzk** · 10-06-2010, 09:15 AM

From what I have been seeing on the Web, my guess is that by the time Spring 2011 comes around, the K5 might sell for somewhere around $1200 !!
It went from the suggested retail price of $1699 USD (when it was first announced) and now you can order it at $1499 Cdn (or less?)!

I wonder if this trend will come true.
Perhaps Pentax has decided to be agressive toward the D7000 pricing?

JP

bobmaxja · 10-06-2010, 09:27 AM

Here a graph of the USD Price of the K-7 body from photoprice.ca

glanglois · 10-06-2010, 10:21 AM

As always, the market (that's us) will set the target price: it's what we're willing to pay.

Pentax will set a floor below which we cannot drive them. This is done by setting the wholesale price.

Gear will sell at which ever is the higher of the two at any given time.

As has been noted elsewhere, the target street price is based on the value the market sees in the gear. That value is determined by the answers to two questions:

What is the thingie worth to me in itself?

What is it worth to me in comparison to other choices (Nikon, Canon, rent, etc.)?

So it's also dependent to a great extent on the competitive pressures. We don't know where all of this will go as we cannot figure out what our sales demand will be in six months, never mind knowing what competition will do in products and pricing strategies. All a wild guess now.

Except that we know that products have life cycles and that prices decline toward the end. That's it.

The graph above is especially interesting in that the January pricing is $100 more than October pricing. I can see the price firming or rising in November-December, but it's not until March that the October price is met. Odd, that.

**jpzk** · 10-06-2010, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

Here a graph of the USD Price of the K-7 body from photoprice.ca

Interestingly enough, this graph starts with peak prices during November - December, almost the same as for the K5.
So, if we take this graph and extrapolate for the K5, we should have some great prices comes next pring/Summer.

On the other hand, if the demand is strong, the price might not go down as much as that of the K7.

Thanks for the reply.

JP

ionutmar · 10-06-2010, 12:28 PM

in Romania

K5 body = 1220 E
K5+18-55 = 1284 E
K5+18-55-200 = 1456 E
no 18-135 kit offer

The values are a little high especially for Romania income.

mlatour · 10-09-2010, 06:01 AM

Not sure if it was mentionned here before,

was at the L.L. Lozeau Camera store in Montréal last night,
the new Pentax DA 18-135mm is listed there at 590.00$ CAD
but not in stock yet.

bobmaxja · 10-14-2010, 07:01 PM

L.l. Lozeau in Montreal is advertising the K-5 body at $1529 CDN . Not in stock yet

Clicker · 10-15-2010, 05:56 AM

they could possibly be attracting pre-orders then adjusting prices as demand rises above supply.

bobmaxja · 10-15-2010, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Clicker

they could possibly be attracting pre-orders then adjusting prices as demand rises above supply.

They could but CDN$ is still going up vs USD and stable versus Yen.
USD lost against yen

Now it's cheaper to buy a K-5 in Canada than in the USA(excluding tax)

10-09-2010, 06:01 AM	#42
mlatour Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 197	Not sure if it was mentionned here before, was at the L.L. Lozeau Camera store in Montréal last night, the new Pentax DA 18-135mm is listed there at 590.00$ CAD but not in stock yet. Last edited by mlatour; 10-09-2010 at 06:12 AM.

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10-05-2010, 06:07 PM	#31
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by ManuH I had to deal with a few repairs and I think it's faster shipping the defective product to Pentax Canada directly than to go through the store where you purchased it. The downside is that you have to pay the postage to send it (but the return is free) and to pack the thing correctly. I've sent my DA* 16-50mm 2 times that way and my K20D and it was always relatively fast (2-3 weeks max.). The K-7 I returned through the store, I waited almost 5 weeks. In that case, it looks like doing your own shipping is worth the effort in the end. I'll keep that in mind if this is something I ever have to do. JP

10-05-2010, 06:10 PM	#32
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Has anyone ever ordered a camera from the USA, had a problem with it and ran into warranty problems because we are in Canada? Or it could have been a lens? I'm asking this because in spite of the really close exchange rate between the USA and Canada, as we speak, I notice that most of the time the prices are way better "down there". JP

10-05-2010, 06:46 PM	#33
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Originally posted by jpzk Has anyone ever ordered a camera from the USA, had a problem with it and ran into warranty problems because we are in Canada? Or it could have been a lens? I'm asking this because in spite of the really close exchange rate between the USA and Canada, as we speak, I notice that most of the time the prices are way better "down there". JP Bought my K-X kit from Newegg.ca but camera is from the USA and took the extended warranty . But everything is perfect up to now. Newegg was a lot cheaper last April than anybody else for the K-X . Now no advantage anymore

10-05-2010, 07:17 PM	#34
aleonx3 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,996	Originally posted by jpzk Has anyone ever ordered a camera from the USA, had a problem with it and ran into warranty problems because we are in Canada? Or it could have been a lens? I'm asking this because in spite of the really close exchange rate between the USA and Canada, as we speak, I notice that most of the time the prices are way better "down there". JP With the current exchange rate, you can certainly save some money to shop from the USA. The only problem is the warranty which is reduced to 1-year instead of 2-years. If you use the benefit of the topping 1-year extra on your credit card (some do), you will be ahead of the game. If I have to purchase from Canada, Prodigital2000 would be the least expensive option.

10-06-2010, 03:36 AM	#35
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Wow, major difference with Pro Digital Thanks

10-06-2010, 03:41 AM	#36
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	Originally posted by aleonx3 The only problem is the warranty which is reduced to 1-year instead of 2-years. Not only. Since one year or two Pentax Canada now ask a flat rate of 50$ for any international repair. It's written on their website. They probably were fed up to assume the repairs for stuff they didn't make any money on.

10-06-2010, 09:15 AM	#37
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	From what I have been seeing on the Web, my guess is that by the time Spring 2011 comes around, the K5 might sell for somewhere around $1200 !! It went from the suggested retail price of $1699 USD (when it was first announced) and now you can order it at $1499 Cdn (or less?)! I wonder if this trend will come true. Perhaps Pentax has decided to be agressive toward the D7000 pricing? JP

10-06-2010, 09:27 AM	#38
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Here a graph of the USD Price of the K-7 body from photoprice.ca

10-06-2010, 10:21 AM	#39
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	As always, the market (that's us) will set the target price: it's what we're willing to pay. Pentax will set a floor below which we cannot drive them. This is done by setting the wholesale price. Gear will sell at which ever is the higher of the two at any given time. As has been noted elsewhere, the target street price is based on the value the market sees in the gear. That value is determined by the answers to two questions: What is the thingie worth to me in itself? What is it worth to me in comparison to other choices (Nikon, Canon, rent, etc.)? So it's also dependent to a great extent on the competitive pressures. We don't know where all of this will go as we cannot figure out what our sales demand will be in six months, never mind knowing what competition will do in products and pricing strategies. All a wild guess now. Except that we know that products have life cycles and that prices decline toward the end. That's it. The graph above is especially interesting in that the January pricing is $100 more than October pricing. I can see the price firming or rising in November-December, but it's not until March that the October price is met. Odd, that.

10-06-2010, 12:08 PM	#40
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by bobmaxja Here a graph of the USD Price of the K-7 body from photoprice.ca Interestingly enough, this graph starts with peak prices during November - December, almost the same as for the K5. So, if we take this graph and extrapolate for the K5, we should have some great prices comes next pring/Summer. On the other hand, if the demand is strong, the price might not go down as much as that of the K7. Thanks for the reply. JP

10-06-2010, 12:28 PM	#41
ionutmar Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Photos: Gallery Posts: 43	in Romania K5 body = 1220 E K5+18-55 = 1284 E K5+18-55-200 = 1456 E no 18-135 kit offer The values are a little high especially for Romania income.

10-14-2010, 07:01 PM	#43
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	L.l. Lozeau in Montreal is advertising the K-5 body at $1529 CDN . Not in stock yet

10-15-2010, 05:56 AM	#44
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	they could possibly be attracting pre-orders then adjusting prices as demand rises above supply.

10-15-2010, 06:31 AM	#45
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Originally posted by Clicker they could possibly be attracting pre-orders then adjusting prices as demand rises above supply. They could but CDN$ is still going up vs USD and stable versus Yen. USD lost against yen Now it's cheaper to buy a K-5 in Canada than in the USA(excluding tax)

Price of K5 in Canada.

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