Originally posted by Digitalis Okay I'll clarify my point, even with Pentax's in body IS you need to have good technique,no? I have seen plenty of examples where people have just let technology to compensate for technique that is just plain sloppy. I can hand hold my Nikon D3s at 1/20th without significant difficulty and still achieve more than acceptable results for 13X19 inch print. Though for serious street work, I use a Leica which is categorically not an option for a photographer of limited income.
Of course you need technique, as mentioned a lot of times In questions of 'which technology is better for this,' ...particularly for the money, and in terms of what's available, SR is *incredibly* useful, particularly compared to bracing against things, which limits your very *point of view,* which is where the photography really happens.
If I can handhold down in the neighborhood of a third-half a second with a 600 dollar camera and any lens I use, that's pretty useful. (that's with a couple-of-generations-ago tech, including high ISO quality,) You're down to subject motion, which is a real concern, of course.
On one hand, the streets haven't gotten particularly darker since film was the only way, but where you've got more practical leeway, the more you can do/get away with. The tech does count, at least to a point. (Past a point, it's not helping you.)
Like I showed in my photo, I do like the fast lens, nice viewfinger, big body thing in film (I find the heft itself very useful for stability,) but that's obviously a massive investment in film bodies that don't have the stabilizing-all-these-little-fast lenses. (I'm always crying out for Pentax to just make a screen *for* fast lenses and MF: it wouldn't be a FF pro body finder, but it'd be darn adequate.
There's a better chance of Pentax continuing to increase the other capabilities than Nikon adding in-body SR to those kinds of cameras, or making a full suite of fast primes with the feature.
The K-5 is looking to have sufficient capabilities there: (Past a point, diminishing returns, anyway,) ISO stuff, AF that's not prone to get fooled by strange mixed lighting in lower light, (occasional pain, that, with my K20d, )
Quote: With street photography is isn't just about which camera has the best High ISO or which camera has IS or not. If you look at street photography in the 90's people did very well without such things because they learned to use their environment to assist with stabilising themselves when light levels sank. I still use many of the bracing techniques commonly used for cameras without IS and in some cases I simply turn off IS in my K10 or K7. It's takes too long to get it's sh*t together and in street photography a critical moment can pass you by in a fraction of a second.
the reasons why I chose the D3s:
1] the D3s has a HUGE viewfinder it makes details, and facial expression in a scene much clearer.
2] High ISO on the D3s has finely grained noise which at it's highest settings has grain that is reminiscent of Kodak TRi-X in Rodinal.
3] the Noct Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 is a real blast to use on the Nikon D3s, bright viewfinder, manual focusing can be a bit of a pain - but I like a challenge. And it produces nice bokeh, though some people really hate how it renders OOF highlights, I don't care - it's the Noct-Nikkor signature.
All valid, though is it worth, say, five times the price to go to, and *not* have the SR/fast lenses option? (Without maybe, doubtless, spending still more to get it if those fast lenses come from.)
Bummer than MF is a 'challenge,' though, I'd assumed better.
'A bit of a pain,' I can have *that* a lot cheaper, too.
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Quote: I always loved the construction of their camera bodies, the lines of the cameras themselves. you don't see that these days, Canon are going all smoothly shaped, Nikon are softening some of the harder edges with curves and Pentax is going for a more angular appearance. Sony are (thankfully) keeping the boxier appearance of the Minolta cameras( I regret never buying a Minolta 7D, I actually really liked that camera) and Leica is sticking to a camera body design that was developed in the 1950s..
The design thing is more fun. My K20d's look has kind of grown on me, but especially with a grip on there, the K-7 came out and I was, 'Now *that's* how a camera's supposed to look.
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As for the Sony's, I liked the A900 for its oddness. (I'm kind of obligated. After all my remarks about general DSLR design, "Eh, just stick like an F3HP finder on there and it'll be OK." Maybe not quite so good, but it *looks* like they did something exactly like that, so I can't dislike it now.
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