Originally posted by Class A You can link to dpreview in many ways, e.g., putting a space in the URL, using a short URL (-> tinyurl.com/), etc.
Sure, but that way does not make fun of the war between the two sites...
Quote: Of course not, but I have a feeling that Falk's findings will give us an idea of how serious the issue is and whether there is hope for a "perfect" fix.
I already know how serious the issue is from shooting with and testing 3 bodies with 12 lenses and also from seeing the problem on forums from Asia to Germany to Spain and other English forums like this one and the unnamed one. I have also seen that the Kr has the same issue.
I'm not sure how Falk's findings will have any bearing on a perfect fix unless he has recently signed on with Pentax Engineering. The results will likely be academically interesting, however.
Quote: You can replicate the same on the K-5 by using LV focus.
Yes, I can make the K5 focus clumsily and slowly (but accurately) while trying to hold it out in front of me with a heavy pro f2.8 zoom and flash attached just like a point and shoot camera that costs over $1200 less
Using LV to compare does clearly show the problem, however.
Quote: Very few claim that there is no problem (I don't belong to this minority).
I did not mean to imply that you did.
Quote: We've had several reports that Hoya is working on the issue.
Yes, several unofficial reports, including some with time frames that have long since lapsed. We also have many quotes from folks who have contacted Pentax about the issue where they claim to have never heard of the issue nor seen a camera behaving this way.
Hard to know which to believe.
Quote: Pentax has never been outspoken about future fixes and/or existing problems (the public apology regarding the "sensor stain" issue was a notable exception). Quietness doesn't mean inactivity.
Since I have been shooting Pentax since 1978, I do understand that they are a bit less than good at communication. However, it is closer to the truth that in all but the most extreme cases, the issues have simply not been addressed, so quietness has meant inactivity.
To list just a few:
K10D focus issues - Yes, the K10D had FF in low or "tungsten" lighting.
K10D "VPN" - This one needs a chapter of it's own.
SDM failures - No need to open that can of worms, is there?
Kx shutter blur - More worms
Decentered DA* 16-50 lenses
Unsharp 17-70 lenses
I am probably forgetting a few, and in
some cases you could send your defective stuff in and get it fixed, but not because Pentax noted the problem and communicated with the buyers. You either played the exchange roulette game trying to get a good copy, or sent it in and often waited weeks or months while service tried to figure out what was wrong or sent it to Japan (sound familiar?).
For the most part, issues that seemed fairly widespread and could be duplicated by many or all were simply left completely unaddressed, or the burden was placed on the buyer to complain and return the product.
Quote: I trust you just need a bit more patience and, FWIW, I think it will be worth it.
The K5 would be just about the perfect camera for me, but try a Google search on the FF issue with either the K5 or the Kr and see how many months it has been since the issue surfaced. You will find that the reports go back to not too long after the cameras got into the hands of the users and today there is still no fix or any official word about any fix.
With so many apparently willing to put up with Krs and K5s that do not work right, this long silence has me just about convinced that the issue is going to be just like the shutter blur issue, or SDM failures, or K10D VPN and it will not be addressed.
Ray