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pcarfan · 08-14-2011, 06:38 AM

I was trying the green mode to send the K-5 with my wife for a trip with my Tamron 17-50. The lens needed -10 AF adjustment, but in green mode this doesnt show up and the focus is way off, why in the world would this be the case ? any way of overcoming this?

JeffJS · 08-14-2011, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by pcarfan

I was trying the green mode to send the K-5 with my wife for a trip with my Tamron 17-50. The lens needed -10 AF adjustment, but in green mode this doesnt show up and the focus is way off, why in the world would this be the case ? any way of overcoming this?

Probably because Green Mode makes the camera behave like a cheap point and shoot. It disables most options. Why it cancels the AF adjust settings, I have no idea.

RonHendriks1966 · 08-14-2011, 11:23 AM

Let her use P-mode.

pcarfan · 08-14-2011, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Let her use P-mode.

I was considering this, but it is not quite the auto mode to be able to use the camera as a point and shoot. She still needs to choose aperture or shutter . The green mode is there to make it a point and shoot and then they take the lens correction away, dang!

I was considering getting a point and shoot, but I think I will just get another lens which doesn't need the AF correction.

pcarfan · 08-14-2011, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by JeffJS

Probably because Green Mode makes the camera behave like a cheap point and shoot. It disables most options. Why it cancels the AF adjust settings, I have no idea.

I am trying my hard to make it behave like a cheap point and shoot, but I am surpised why an unseemingly disconnected feature is removed just for the sake of removing it.

creampuff · 08-14-2011, 05:44 PM

Please re-read your K-5 operating manual.
There is no need to choose the shutter speed or aperture in Program mode.
One can however change to Aperture or Shutter Priority with a flick of either one of the e-dials.

**Ash** · 08-14-2011, 05:53 PM

Just get her to use P mode and set auto ISO on the camera - you'll find it's essentially a green mode with those settings.

twitch · 08-14-2011, 06:00 PM

P mode is dead easy. The only manual bit in P mode compared to Auto is that you have to pop up the flash if you want to use flash for a photo. In auto mode it pops it up automatically.

**Ash** · 08-14-2011, 06:02 PM

Then you will also have the AF adustment settings honoured by the camera...

George Lama · 08-14-2011, 06:51 PM

No doubt - good advise regarding using P mode instead of Green.

That said, I fail to see the logic behind eliminating a calibration adjustment from any mode. Green mode doesn't magically fix the calibration discrepancy between lens and camera. It's like having my prescription glasses taken away just because I'm using auto-focus mode - watch me trip and fall! ;-)

pcarfan · 08-14-2011, 08:39 PM

oK! P mode is pretty much Green, there was some metering difference (?) but I preferred the P mode metering anyways....thanks!

v5planet · 08-14-2011, 10:37 PM

Interesting, I wouldn't have expected it to do that, since the AF adjustments are more of a calibration than a manual overriding of automatic mechanisms.

**Rondec** · 08-15-2011, 04:42 AM

I think Pentax assumes (rightly or wrongly) that if you use green mode, you have absolutely no clue what you are doing and therefore disables any feature you could use to screw up your photos. That's why you can't shoot in RAW either in green mode. This obviously is a specific situation where someone knowledgeable has calibrated the camera and lens, but its a technical procedure and I doubt most people who use green mode will truly be OK doing it.

mccarvindh · 08-17-2011, 07:53 AM

I just checked my camera and AF adjustments work with green mode. I can also shoot RAW. I am surprised that these features are removed in later models. However, I see Rondec's point, Pentax probably does not want users to fiddle when they are using the green mode.

George Lama · 08-17-2011, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by mccarvindh

However, I see Rondec's point, Pentax probably does not want users to fiddle when they are using the green mode.

Still makes no sense. To stick with my analogy of my prescription glasses, would I take them off just because I turn on my car's cruise control? Oy!

08-14-2011, 06:38 AM	#1
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978	Green Mode and AF adjustment I was trying the green mode to send the K-5 with my wife for a trip with my Tamron 17-50. The lens needed -10 AF adjustment, but in green mode this doesnt show up and the focus is way off, why in the world would this be the case ? any way of overcoming this?

08-17-2011, 07:53 AM	#14
mccarvindh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohio, USA/ India Photos: Gallery Posts: 478	Not the case with K20D I just checked my camera and AF adjustments work with green mode. I can also shoot RAW. I am surprised that these features are removed in later models. However, I see Rondec's point, Pentax probably does not want users to fiddle when they are using the green mode.

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08-14-2011, 10:15 AM	#2
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	Originally posted by pcarfan I was trying the green mode to send the K-5 with my wife for a trip with my Tamron 17-50. The lens needed -10 AF adjustment, but in green mode this doesnt show up and the focus is way off, why in the world would this be the case ? any way of overcoming this? Probably because Green Mode makes the camera behave like a cheap point and shoot. It disables most options. Why it cancels the AF adjust settings, I have no idea.

08-14-2011, 11:23 AM	#3
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Let her use P-mode.

08-14-2011, 11:46 AM	#4
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Let her use P-mode. I was considering this, but it is not quite the auto mode to be able to use the camera as a point and shoot. She still needs to choose aperture or shutter . The green mode is there to make it a point and shoot and then they take the lens correction away, dang! I was considering getting a point and shoot, but I think I will just get another lens which doesn't need the AF correction.

08-14-2011, 11:47 AM	#5
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by JeffJS Probably because Green Mode makes the camera behave like a cheap point and shoot. It disables most options. Why it cancels the AF adjust settings, I have no idea. I am trying my hard to make it behave like a cheap point and shoot, but I am surpised why an unseemingly disconnected feature is removed just for the sake of removing it.

08-14-2011, 05:44 PM	#6
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Please re-read your K-5 operating manual. There is no need to choose the shutter speed or aperture in Program mode. One can however change to Aperture or Shutter Priority with a flick of either one of the e-dials.

08-14-2011, 05:53 PM	#7
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Just get her to use P mode and set auto ISO on the camera - you'll find it's essentially a green mode with those settings.

08-14-2011, 06:00 PM	#8
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	P mode is dead easy. The only manual bit in P mode compared to Auto is that you have to pop up the flash if you want to use flash for a photo. In auto mode it pops it up automatically.

08-14-2011, 06:02 PM	#9
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Then you will also have the AF adustment settings honoured by the camera...

08-14-2011, 06:51 PM	#10
George Lama Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buffalo/Rochester, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,133	No doubt - good advise regarding using P mode instead of Green. That said, I fail to see the logic behind eliminating a calibration adjustment from any mode. Green mode doesn't magically fix the calibration discrepancy between lens and camera. It's like having my prescription glasses taken away just because I'm using auto-focus mode - watch me trip and fall! ;-)

08-14-2011, 08:39 PM	#11
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	oK! P mode is pretty much Green, there was some metering difference (?) but I preferred the P mode metering anyways....thanks!

08-14-2011, 10:37 PM	#12
v5planet Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Seattle Photos: Albums Posts: 1,915	Interesting, I wouldn't have expected it to do that, since the AF adjustments are more of a calibration than a manual overriding of automatic mechanisms.

08-15-2011, 04:42 AM	#13
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,668	I think Pentax assumes (rightly or wrongly) that if you use green mode, you have absolutely no clue what you are doing and therefore disables any feature you could use to screw up your photos. That's why you can't shoot in RAW either in green mode. This obviously is a specific situation where someone knowledgeable has calibrated the camera and lens, but its a technical procedure and I doubt most people who use green mode will truly be OK doing it.

08-17-2011, 06:16 PM	#15
George Lama Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buffalo/Rochester, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,133	Originally posted by mccarvindh However, I see Rondec's point, Pentax probably does not want users to fiddle when they are using the green mode. Still makes no sense. To stick with my analogy of my prescription glasses, would I take them off just because I turn on my car's cruise control? Oy!

Green Mode and AF adjustment

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