I miss the SR switch on my K20D

stormtech · 03-08-2012, 08:59 PM

This is one feature I really miss coming from the K20D.

I studied the manual hoping that I could assign the raw/fx button to toggle SR, but no luck. I realize I can use the 2 sec timer or mirror lock up so turn off SR, but that's not what I want.

When shooting wildlife, I like to use my tripod but things happen fast and don't always have time to use the mirror lock up. From what the manual says, if you don't press the shutter button within 1 minute, the mirror then comes back down. And.....I just hate digging into the menu to turn it on or off.

So it looks like my only choice is to create a user mode with SR off when I using the tripod.

Am I missing something, or is this my only choice for quickly turning SR on and off?

derekkite · 03-08-2012, 09:13 PM

What I did was set up a number of user profiles. I have one set up for my autofocus lens hand held where SR is on, another for my monopod where I have SR turned off. Other settings are saved as well, but I use it mostly for SR.

stormtech · 03-08-2012, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by derekkite

What I did was set up a number of user profiles. I have one set up for my autofocus lens hand held where SR is on, another for my monopod where I have SR turned off. Other settings are saved as well, but I use it mostly for SR.

Thanks for that. From what I read in the manual this would be my only option - but not a bad option at all.

enoxatnep · 03-08-2012, 09:19 PM

I miss it, too. It's one of the very few steps backward from the K20D, in my opinion. I'm trying to get into the habit of remembering to press the Info button to see if it's on/off, then using the 4-way controller to move to the SR feature and turning the rear dial to change it, but sometimes I forget, like when I mount it on a tripod!

Ratmagiclady · 03-08-2012, 09:45 PM

Agreed. If that particular mechanism is off or on, I want to *feel* it. (Changes everything about motion: has to be something I can touch. )

Menus can't do that.

Of course I still *have* a K20d, but I'd miss it. Along with any switch I can feel.

**crewl1** · 03-08-2012, 11:39 PM

I believe setting drive mode to remote (ir) will also turn off the sr. Shutter operates as normal. You could put gaffer tape over the blinky red light if needed.

imtheguy · 03-08-2012, 11:54 PM

I too used to change my k20d between SR-on and SR-off when alternating shots of flying birds versus sitting on a branch. Then I just started using TAv mode on the k-5 with speed high enough that SR is useless anyway. Now I just leave it off when wandering a river bank in daylight. I cant place the exact threads but it has been addressed before about speeds over (was it 1/500s?) that SR does nothing. I typically shoot at 1/1000s.

Gimbal · 03-09-2012, 12:16 AM

And the bracketing button, that's the one I miss....

Macario · 03-09-2012, 02:03 AM

I have the K-7 and I believe the menu system and all is about the same. Another option is (which I use). is through the info screen. Just make your the SR on/off option is selected in the info screen and then you can do it rather quick. Press info to get in the screen, turn e-dial to turn SR on or off, and you are set. Just press the shutter to make the shot now. It is not as quick as on switch, but fairly quick, and it works for me (took me a long time to figure out that it is possible)

vloris · 03-09-2012, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by Gimbal

And the bracketing button, that's the one I miss....

I'm not exactly sure how that one works on a K20D, but on the K5 you can reprogram the raw/fx button to enable bracketing

vrrattko · 03-09-2012, 05:21 AM

Quick access to Shake Reduction switch - hit twice INFO button and turn it off/on. I'm more annoyed with ISO button....I still didn't master the changing ISO fluently

btw. Bracketing can be programmed to RAW/FX button

**Michaelina2** · 03-09-2012, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by imtheguy

I too used to change my k20d between SR-on and SR-off when alternating shots of flying birds versus sitting on a branch. Then I just started using TAv mode on the k-5 with speed high enough that SR is useless anyway. Now I just leave it off ...

Agree... SR will not freeze a fidgety subject. Higher shutter speed is necessary. I utilize a K-5 USER profile that defaults to TAV, among other things. Now, my shutter speeds are rarely less that 1/400 sec (I can hand-hold steady to 1/25sec, too, if needed). Plus, SR should to be off when panning moving subjects, anyway. I found SR to be kinda like training wheels. It was handy when learning the limits of my gear, but as I've sharpened my technique and moved along the learning curve, I've weaned myself off of it. As such, I just don't think about it too much anymore and find it not that critical.

Cheers and enjoy the season...

vloris · 03-09-2012, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by imtheguy

I too used to change my k20d between SR-on and SR-off when alternating shots of flying birds versus sitting on a branch.

I'm not sure why you want SR-on for a flying bird (or did you mean the other way? SR-on for sitting birds, SR-off for flying ones? In that case, you can ignore the rest of my comment).

SR helps stop camera-motion, not subject-motion. You can only freeze moving subjects by using a high enough shutter speed.

stormtech · 03-09-2012, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by vrrattko

Quick access to Shake Reduction switch - hit twice INFO button and turn it off/on. I'm more annoyed with ISO button....I still didn't master the changing ISO fluently

btw. Bracketing can be programmed to RAW/FX button

Now that is what I was looking for - pressing the INFO button twice, then quickly to the SR - thanks vrrattko!

RonHendriks1966 · 03-09-2012, 01:41 PM - **1 Like**

I missed the fuss, since it is very easy to change things in the quick menu to reach true the info-button.

03-08-2012, 08:59 PM	#1
stormtech Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In the boonies (NW Penna) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,744	I miss the SR switch on my K20D This is one feature I really miss coming from the K20D. I studied the manual hoping that I could assign the raw/fx button to toggle SR, but no luck. I realize I can use the 2 sec timer or mirror lock up so turn off SR, but that's not what I want. When shooting wildlife, I like to use my tripod but things happen fast and don't always have time to use the mirror lock up. From what the manual says, if you don't press the shutter button within 1 minute, the mirror then comes back down. And.....I just hate digging into the menu to turn it on or off. So it looks like my only choice is to create a user mode with SR off when I using the tripod. Am I missing something, or is this my only choice for quickly turning SR on and off?

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03-08-2012, 09:13 PM	#2
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	What I did was set up a number of user profiles. I have one set up for my autofocus lens hand held where SR is on, another for my monopod where I have SR turned off. Other settings are saved as well, but I use it mostly for SR.

03-08-2012, 09:14 PM	#3
stormtech Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In the boonies (NW Penna) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,744 Original Poster	Originally posted by derekkite What I did was set up a number of user profiles. I have one set up for my autofocus lens hand held where SR is on, another for my monopod where I have SR turned off. Other settings are saved as well, but I use it mostly for SR. Thanks for that. From what I read in the manual this would be my only option - but not a bad option at all.

03-08-2012, 09:19 PM	#4
enoxatnep Closed Account Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The edge of nowhere, Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 467	I miss it, too. It's one of the very few steps backward from the K20D, in my opinion. I'm trying to get into the habit of remembering to press the Info button to see if it's on/off, then using the 4-way controller to move to the SR feature and turning the rear dial to change it, but sometimes I forget, like when I mount it on a tripod!

03-08-2012, 09:45 PM	#5
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Agreed. If that particular mechanism is off or on, I want to feel it. (Changes everything about motion: has to be something I can touch. ) Menus can't do that. Of course I still have a K20d, but I'd miss it. Along with any switch I can feel.

03-08-2012, 11:39 PM	#6
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	I believe setting drive mode to remote (ir) will also turn off the sr. Shutter operates as normal. You could put gaffer tape over the blinky red light if needed.

03-08-2012, 11:54 PM	#7
imtheguy Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,950	I too used to change my k20d between SR-on and SR-off when alternating shots of flying birds versus sitting on a branch. Then I just started using TAv mode on the k-5 with speed high enough that SR is useless anyway. Now I just leave it off when wandering a river bank in daylight. I cant place the exact threads but it has been addressed before about speeds over (was it 1/500s?) that SR does nothing. I typically shoot at 1/1000s.

03-09-2012, 12:16 AM	#8
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	And the bracketing button, that's the one I miss....

03-09-2012, 02:03 AM	#9
Macario Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Hoek van Holland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,393	I have the K-7 and I believe the menu system and all is about the same. Another option is (which I use). is through the info screen. Just make your the SR on/off option is selected in the info screen and then you can do it rather quick. Press info to get in the screen, turn e-dial to turn SR on or off, and you are set. Just press the shutter to make the shot now. It is not as quick as on switch, but fairly quick, and it works for me (took me a long time to figure out that it is possible)

03-09-2012, 05:09 AM	#10
vloris New Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 18	Originally posted by Gimbal And the bracketing button, that's the one I miss.... I'm not exactly sure how that one works on a K20D, but on the K5 you can reprogram the raw/fx button to enable bracketing

03-09-2012, 05:21 AM	#11
vrrattko Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 753	Quick access to Shake Reduction switch - hit twice INFO button and turn it off/on. I'm more annoyed with ISO button....I still didn't master the changing ISO fluently btw. Bracketing can be programmed to RAW/FX button

03-09-2012, 05:25 AM	#12
Michaelina2 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SE Michigan USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,302	Originally posted by imtheguy I too used to change my k20d between SR-on and SR-off when alternating shots of flying birds versus sitting on a branch. Then I just started using TAv mode on the k-5 with speed high enough that SR is useless anyway. Now I just leave it off ... Agree... SR will not freeze a fidgety subject. Higher shutter speed is necessary. I utilize a K-5 USER profile that defaults to TAV, among other things. Now, my shutter speeds are rarely less that 1/400 sec (I can hand-hold steady to 1/25sec, too, if needed). Plus, SR should to be off when panning moving subjects, anyway. I found SR to be kinda like training wheels. It was handy when learning the limits of my gear, but as I've sharpened my technique and moved along the learning curve, I've weaned myself off of it. As such, I just don't think about it too much anymore and find it not that critical. Cheers and enjoy the season...

03-09-2012, 06:42 AM	#13
vloris New Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 18	Originally posted by imtheguy I too used to change my k20d between SR-on and SR-off when alternating shots of flying birds versus sitting on a branch. I'm not sure why you want SR-on for a flying bird (or did you mean the other way? SR-on for sitting birds, SR-off for flying ones? In that case, you can ignore the rest of my comment). SR helps stop camera-motion, not subject-motion. You can only freeze moving subjects by using a high enough shutter speed.

03-09-2012, 01:27 PM	#14
stormtech Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In the boonies (NW Penna) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,744 Original Poster	Originally posted by vrrattko Quick access to Shake Reduction switch - hit twice INFO button and turn it off/on. I'm more annoyed with ISO button....I still didn't master the changing ISO fluently btw. Bracketing can be programmed to RAW/FX button Now that is what I was looking for - pressing the INFO button twice, then quickly to the SR - thanks vrrattko!

03-09-2012, 01:41 PM - 1 Like	#15
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	I missed the fuss, since it is very easy to change things in the quick menu to reach true the info-button.