Anyone Pre-order a K5-II or IIs yet?

pz1fan · 09-29-2012, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

I did today, A IIs.

I felt like something new, So whenever they ship, I have a new toy.

I'll probably order day it starts shipping. Maybe wait for Pentax forums review, however. Was going to switch because of no FF announced, but I'll wait it out now (D600 cost disappointed and certain key features missing.).

Last edited by pz1fan; 09-29-2012 at 10:53 AM. Reason: clarification on Full Frame

Winder · 09-29-2012, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by rawr

K-5 II DNG's may very well open in existing RAW processors, but the absense of a AA filter in for example the IIs will mean RAW processors will need to be updated and optimised to get the most out of IIs DNG's, since the sensor will be outputting differently to the original K-5.

It should not effect the DNG file. Adobe sets the standard for the DNG and Pentax has to release a camera that exports to this standard. That is the whole purpose of having a standard. Camera manufacturers can't create their own version of it. One advantage you have with a camera that exports DNG is that Pentax includes the instructions in the DNG file for the RAW conversion.

Since the AA filter handles color morie it also makes it harder for the RAW processor to tell the difference between real chroma noise and fine detail. Camera without the AA filter The K-5IIs should show less color noise, better detail, better high ISO.

ve2vfd · 09-29-2012, 12:48 PM

I'll probably get a 2s after it's been out and in use 3-4 months.

I was an early adopter of the K5 and was rewarded with a very spotty sensor and a $100 courier bill to send it to Pentax Canada.... this time I'll wait a bit. I'm sure the K5d-IIs will be awesome, but this time around I'll give others the opportunity to be the lab rats...

Pat

rawr · 09-29-2012, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Winder

One advantage you have with a camera that exports DNG is that Pentax includes the instructions in the DNG file for the RAW conversion.

Theoretically.

That's the ideal but it doesn't seem to work that way - just look at folks recent experience with Pentax K-30 DNG's (and before that K-x and K-5 DNG's) and RAW processors like Capture One. Each RAW processing engine seems to have it's own camera-specific DNG optimisations, or less charitably, have it's own ideas about how DNG's should be rendered.

Winder · 09-30-2012, 12:06 PM

From what I understand the problem has been in the way C1 implements DNG support and not a problem with DNG. I downloaded quite a few K-30 DNG files when they first were made available and opened them with LR to compare with my K-5 and I don't remember having any problems with the DNG files.

tabl10s · 09-30-2012, 08:23 PM

My aquisition of the IIs will have wait as I'm in the process of doing a partial trade of my beloved LX(original owner)for a second K-5.

Tonto · 09-30-2012, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

I did today, A IIs.

I felt like something new, So whenever they ship, I have a new toy.

What are you currently shooting with- a K5?

**Eric Auer** · 09-30-2012, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Tonto

What are you currently shooting with- a K5?

I have never owned a Pentax DSLR, All my Pentax gear is film. 135 and medium format.

scunning14 · 10-02-2012, 09:14 AM

I'm going to order the 18-135 kII kit when B and H opens back up. Looks like I will have to wait until Oct 10th until I can place my order. My current body is a k10d so I'm really excited. I have a lot of 2.8 lenses so I hope that the focus speed lives up to the hype. October 15th is also my birthday too...Oh Pentax, How did you know?

RonHendriks1966 · 10-02-2012, 11:03 AM

I'm getting one. Heard a good and very special price (for me only) and taking that. Will sell one K-5.

hansenn · 10-02-2012, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I'm getting one. Heard a good and very special price (for me only) and taking that. Will sell one K-5.

Below €1000,-?

RonHendriks1966 · 10-02-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by hansenn

Below €1000,-?

Yes, a lot! (but a price just for me

)

hansenn · 10-03-2012, 05:50 AM

A lot? Hmmmm
What if you order 2. One for you and one for me lol.

But I,m serious...what is the lowest regular price you heard of here in Netherlands Ron?

GDRoth · 10-08-2012, 07:56 AM

So I'm getting excited about my K5 IIs on order at Adorama..............has anyone heard any more about ship dates or availability?

glennbp · 10-08-2012, 08:12 AM

I have a IIs on order from B&H also. I haven't heard anything about ship dates other than the expected arrival date is 10/15.

09-30-2012, 08:23 PM	#36
tabl10s Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento(formerly from B'Ham, England). Posts: 1,424	My aquisition of the IIs will have wait as I'm in the process of doing a partial trade of my beloved LX(original owner)for a second K-5. Last edited by tabl10s; 10-04-2012 at 11:05 PM.

10-02-2012, 09:14 AM	#39
scunning14 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 195	Can't wait I'm going to order the 18-135 kII kit when B and H opens back up. Looks like I will have to wait until Oct 10th until I can place my order. My current body is a k10d so I'm really excited. I have a lot of 2.8 lenses so I hope that the focus speed lives up to the hype. October 15th is also my birthday too...Oh Pentax, How did you know?

10-02-2012, 12:33 PM	#42
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by hansenn Below €1000,-? Yes, a lot! (but a price just for me)

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09-29-2012, 10:35 AM	#31
pz1fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 183	Originally posted by Corto-PA I did today, A IIs. I felt like something new, So whenever they ship, I have a new toy. I'll probably order day it starts shipping. Maybe wait for Pentax forums review, however. Was going to switch because of no FF announced, but I'll wait it out now (D600 cost disappointed and certain key features missing.). Last edited by pz1fan; 09-29-2012 at 10:53 AM. Reason: clarification on Full Frame

09-29-2012, 11:27 AM	#32
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by rawr K-5 II DNG's may very well open in existing RAW processors, but the absense of a AA filter in for example the IIs will mean RAW processors will need to be updated and optimised to get the most out of IIs DNG's, since the sensor will be outputting differently to the original K-5. It should not effect the DNG file. Adobe sets the standard for the DNG and Pentax has to release a camera that exports to this standard. That is the whole purpose of having a standard. Camera manufacturers can't create their own version of it. One advantage you have with a camera that exports DNG is that Pentax includes the instructions in the DNG file for the RAW conversion. Since the AA filter handles color morie it also makes it harder for the RAW processor to tell the difference between real chroma noise and fine detail. Camera without the AA filter The K-5IIs should show less color noise, better detail, better high ISO.

09-29-2012, 12:48 PM	#33
ve2vfd Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,433	I'll probably get a 2s after it's been out and in use 3-4 months. I was an early adopter of the K5 and was rewarded with a very spotty sensor and a $100 courier bill to send it to Pentax Canada.... this time I'll wait a bit. I'm sure the K5d-IIs will be awesome, but this time around I'll give others the opportunity to be the lab rats... Pat

09-29-2012, 01:28 PM	#34
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Winder One advantage you have with a camera that exports DNG is that Pentax includes the instructions in the DNG file for the RAW conversion. Theoretically. That's the ideal but it doesn't seem to work that way - just look at folks recent experience with Pentax K-30 DNG's (and before that K-x and K-5 DNG's) and RAW processors like Capture One. Each RAW processing engine seems to have it's own camera-specific DNG optimisations, or less charitably, have it's own ideas about how DNG's should be rendered.

09-30-2012, 12:06 PM	#35
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	From what I understand the problem has been in the way C1 implements DNG support and not a problem with DNG. I downloaded quite a few K-30 DNG files when they first were made available and opened them with LR to compare with my K-5 and I don't remember having any problems with the DNG files.

09-30-2012, 09:10 PM	#37
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	Originally posted by Corto-PA I did today, A IIs. I felt like something new, So whenever they ship, I have a new toy. What are you currently shooting with- a K5?

09-30-2012, 09:39 PM	#38
Eric Auer Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,211 Original Poster	Originally posted by Tonto What are you currently shooting with- a K5? I have never owned a Pentax DSLR, All my Pentax gear is film. 135 and medium format.

10-02-2012, 11:03 AM	#40
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	I'm getting one. Heard a good and very special price (for me only) and taking that. Will sell one K-5.

10-02-2012, 12:20 PM	#41
hansenn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: twente Photos: Gallery Posts: 123	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I'm getting one. Heard a good and very special price (for me only) and taking that. Will sell one K-5. Below €1000,-?

10-03-2012, 05:50 AM	#43
hansenn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: twente Photos: Gallery Posts: 123	A lot? Hmmmm What if you order 2. One for you and one for me lol. But I,m serious...what is the lowest regular price you heard of here in Netherlands Ron?

10-08-2012, 07:56 AM	#44
GDRoth Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: S.E. Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 830	So I'm getting excited about my K5 IIs on order at Adorama..............has anyone heard any more about ship dates or availability?

10-08-2012, 08:12 AM	#45
glennbp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 148	I have a IIs on order from B&H also. I haven't heard anything about ship dates other than the expected arrival date is 10/15.