Originally posted by Fogel70 So how much is the sensor in Sony FF camera move when in use?
The demo of how much the sensor can move do not tell how much of the movement is used when picture is taken.
As the sensor has to start moving when shutter is closed before the picture is taken and also move after shutter is closed it will not use all movement for shake reduction. And it does not matter if sensor reach outside the image circle before/after picture is taken. Which probably happens on Sony FF cameras when sensor is at its endpoints of movement.
On all Pentax DSLR the sensor also move much more than is in use for SR. And the distance the sensor has to move before picture is taken will vary with focal lengh used, as with the longer focal length the sensor has to move faster, and the faster the sensor move the longer distance it takes to accelerate the sensor to correct speed before picture is taken.
I agree with what you are saying, but I still want to see the actual size of the image circle projected. Sony A900 IBIS is not as effective as OIS. It might be possible to design a K-1 with IBIS of 1-2 stops. It might be possible to design one with 3-4 stops. It might be possible to design a lot of things.
Pentax is pretty silent on technology they are working on. Most of the time a "No Comment" is all we are going to get if Pentax is working on something. To my knowledge Pentax has never lied to its users about where it was going or what it was working on. They just keep quiet. Coming out and publicly saying that most lenses don't have an image circle large enough to support a FF sensor and IBIS is a very specific statement about a very specific challenge to developing a full frame body. People apparently now think that Pentax has started lying to them about future product development. That is a big change from simply saying nothing.
When JC does an interview and says nothing (which is most interviews) people complain because Pentax "does not communicate".
When JC does an interview and says specifically that this is a problem people refuse to believe him. He is probably better off saying nothing. I am starting to understand why he does not waste his time trying to communicate with the customer base.
MF and the MF lenses are not selling well enough to justify developing OIS specifically for that system. OIS is just not a feature that is really needed for a camera that will spend the majority of its time on a tripod for most users. Pentax shares as much technology as it can across platforms to spread out the cost. It is possible that OIS was developed specifically for a $5,000 lens that will sell a few hundred copies a year, I doubt that is the case. 90mm is not exactly a focal length that really needs image stabilization.
I think it is more likely that Pentax developed the OIS technology to address the problem of putting IBIS in a full frame body.
I think the reason JC was so specific about the challenges of putting IBIS in a FF (the only thing he has ever been specific about) is because it is a real issue that they are working on. There is no reason to be so specific about a problem that does not exist.
On the bright side:
Pentax has developed a new AF system with F/2.8 sensors. This is pretty important for the development of longer, faster glass. It is a good sign.
Pentax has developed new lens coatings. This is a good sign that we might see some lenses updated.
Pentax has developed OIS. This is a good sign. There are some advantages to OIS in regards to future technologies.
Not much reason to spend a lot of money on developing the above technologies unless you plan an bringing some serious glass to the market in the near future.