Would you pay $100 to increase the sharpness of your photos across the board?

lightbulb · 03-01-2013, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

He's saying, he already spent money on a denoising program to make his noisy images look clean, but also sharper. Since he would spend $80 bucks on such a denoising program, he would likely spend the $100 to get sharpness improvements on all his images.

You cornered Adam lol!

mee · 03-01-2013, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Adam

RAW does help a lot, but I've been able to get better images thanks to Topaz when applied to processed raw files. And cloning out noise is so last decade

Not saying it's anything particularly impressive, but this handheld iso 5000 shot doesn't have any noise in it, does it?

I believe this one also ended up going through topaz adjust.

It has TONS of noise in it and it is very blurry. You can see the noise especially in the sky..

**fs999** · 03-02-2013, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by lightbulb

You cornered Adam lol!

Haha

lightbulb · 03-02-2013, 04:38 AM

halfspin · 03-02-2013, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by Adam

I would pay $80 for Topaz denoise, which does a much better job of removing noise than the in-camera algorithms or even photoshop. And that'll certainly make my night shots noticeably sharper

Is it me or can you not also denoise and sharpen the already sharper image of the IIs? If you start with a sharper image in my mind you end up with a better image in the end. Also I'd like to see a discussion on the denoise=sharper final as I never knew that was possible and learning how/why would benefit me (and other ignoramouses like me) greatly!

mrNewt · 03-02-2013, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by halfspin

Is it me or can you not also denoise and sharpen the already sharper image of the IIs? If you start with a sharper image in my mind you end up with a better image in the end. Also I'd like to see a discussion on the denoise=sharper final as I never knew that was possible and learning how/why would benefit me (and other ignoramouses like me) greatly!

Start a new thread and ask for info on this if you are rely interested to learn something new.

daveej · 03-02-2013, 09:10 PM

well, of course, but we're not living in fantasy land, and an 8% increase in sharpness comes with other issues. Is the compromise worth it to you? (i'm guessing "yes," and you're looking to confirm your decision with this poll.)

twitch · 03-04-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by halfspin

Is it me or can you not also denoise and sharpen the already sharper image of the IIs? If you start with a sharper image in my mind you end up with a better image in the end. Also I'd like to see a discussion on the denoise=sharper final as I never knew that was possible and learning how/why would benefit me (and other ignoramouses like me) greatly!

I'm 100% with you on this. The K5II image will never close the gap to the K5IIs image as anything that can be done to improve the non-s image can also be done to improve the s image.

I'd gladly pay $100 for the difference, it's a bargain when you look at the kind of money that has to be thrown at lenses for any small improvement (eg compare the FA35 and the FA31).

View Poll Results: Would you pay $100 (US) to increase the sharpness of your photos by 8%?
Yes	52	53.06%
No	22	22.45%
What's the catch	22	22.45%
Undecided	2	2.04%
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03-01-2013, 04:42 PM	#46
lightbulb Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 691	Originally posted by JinDesu He's saying, he already spent money on a denoising program to make his noisy images look clean, but also sharper. Since he would spend $80 bucks on such a denoising program, he would likely spend the $100 to get sharpness improvements on all his images. You cornered Adam lol!

03-01-2013, 04:45 PM	#47
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Adam RAW does help a lot, but I've been able to get better images thanks to Topaz when applied to processed raw files. And cloning out noise is so last decade Not saying it's anything particularly impressive, but this handheld iso 5000 shot doesn't have any noise in it, does it? I believe this one also ended up going through topaz adjust. It has TONS of noise in it and it is very blurry. You can see the noise especially in the sky..

03-02-2013, 03:16 AM	#48
fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,645	Originally posted by lightbulb You cornered Adam lol! Haha

03-02-2013, 04:38 AM	#49
lightbulb Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 691

03-02-2013, 07:55 AM	#50
halfspin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	Originally posted by Adam I would pay $80 for Topaz denoise, which does a much better job of removing noise than the in-camera algorithms or even photoshop. And that'll certainly make my night shots noticeably sharper Is it me or can you not also denoise and sharpen the already sharper image of the IIs? If you start with a sharper image in my mind you end up with a better image in the end. Also I'd like to see a discussion on the denoise=sharper final as I never knew that was possible and learning how/why would benefit me (and other ignoramouses like me) greatly!

03-02-2013, 09:52 AM	#51
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by halfspin Is it me or can you not also denoise and sharpen the already sharper image of the IIs? If you start with a sharper image in my mind you end up with a better image in the end. Also I'd like to see a discussion on the denoise=sharper final as I never knew that was possible and learning how/why would benefit me (and other ignoramouses like me) greatly! Start a new thread and ask for info on this if you are rely interested to learn something new.

03-02-2013, 09:10 PM	#52
daveej Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 110	well, of course, but we're not living in fantasy land, and an 8% increase in sharpness comes with other issues. Is the compromise worth it to you? (i'm guessing "yes," and you're looking to confirm your decision with this poll.)

03-04-2013, 03:11 PM	#53
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Originally posted by halfspin Is it me or can you not also denoise and sharpen the already sharper image of the IIs? If you start with a sharper image in my mind you end up with a better image in the end. Also I'd like to see a discussion on the denoise=sharper final as I never knew that was possible and learning how/why would benefit me (and other ignoramouses like me) greatly! I'm 100% with you on this. The K5II image will never close the gap to the K5IIs image as anything that can be done to improve the non-s image can also be done to improve the s image. I'd gladly pay $100 for the difference, it's a bargain when you look at the kind of money that has to be thrown at lenses for any small improvement (eg compare the FA35 and the FA31).