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10-31-2011, 12:22 PM   #256
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Seems to me that your aim is a bit off in the first 3 pics. Spot focus, wide aperture, shutter speed 1/500 or faster (I prefer 1/1000 or faster) and aim carefully at the subject. AF-C can be tricky with moving subjects and easily gives results like this.

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so you recommend spot focus? are most of the high quality photos of this thread taken using the spot focus or tracking with 5?

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For action sports with fast moving objects and athletes spot metering is the best because you want to make the decision of focus yourself and it happens in a split of a second. Camera might want to focus on something else, like a chair in the background. It also takes some practice to be able to aim properly in a fast moving sport. And the amount of pictures with missed focus, bad composition and other cr*p may be surprisingly high, but that's how it is. It's better to take too many pictures than too few because after the game ends, that's it.
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so you recommend sport focus? are most of the high quality photos of this thread taken using the spot focus or tracking with 5?
I mostly use AF-S and centre focuspoint, but I do change the used focus point from time to time, depending on the sport or the angle I'm working on. I do use AF-C sometimes and then mostly change to 5 AF points, but I think it is a little slow and more prown to focus on other things in your imagefiled.

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For action sports with fast moving objects and athletes spot metering is the best because you want to make the decision of focus yourself and it happens in a split of a second. Camera might want to focus on something else, like a chair in the background. It also takes some practice to be able to aim properly in a fast moving sport. And the amount of pictures with missed focus, bad composition and other cr*p may be surprisingly high, but that's how it is. It's better to take too many pictures than too few because after the game ends, that's it.
I do take a lot of pictures. Getting to learn your sport is also a big part of becoming a better sportsphotographer (wich I do want too be). You have at least 100.000 actuations on your K-5, so I would recomment to use them.

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Last sunday I went to a friendly international game of Rugby XV between the Dutch team and Scotland (in blue):

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The Scottish team where far more better then the very newly team of the Dutch and won 33 - 10.

It's a great sport!
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
You have at least 100.000 actuations on your K-5, so I would recomment to use them.
Hi

And in rugby you have 80 minutes to do it... go for it.

Greetings
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And in rugby you have 80 minutes to do it... go for it.

Greetings
On my list is also SevenS Rugby and they only play two times 7 minutes. So that will be a lot harder (for me running next to the field).
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The problem with these sports shots is there's not enough biffo. What the crowd wants to see is someone going down. Bring on the ultra-violence. In the spirit of true sportmanship and brotherly love, we present... Federation Wrestling.

http://www.awfwrestling.com.au/

As seen at the Brisbane 2011 Supanova Pop Culture Expo (Supanova Pop Culture Expo). K-5 & Sigma 17-70/F2.8-4.5:





























Unfortunately, the 1/180s x-sync speed with the ext. flash (Sigma EF-530 DG Super) was not fast enough to prevent motion blur and I missed out on some really viscous shots. High-Speed Sync with a 1/500s or higher shutter speed may have been a better strategy.

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You got a couple of great shots from that event Dosdan. Too bad I couldn't find the exif info in the pics. It looks as if there was plenty of light coming from those large windows so I wonder if you tried to use high speed and high ISO instead of using a flash. At a lot of indoor events the use of flash is strictly forbidden, so I'm surprised you were allowed to use flash here.
You greeting "Peace and Love" doesn't apply to these sportsmen.

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ISO500 all shots. I was in Av mode, f/5.6 & 1/60s in the early shots. In the late shots I switched to Tv & 1/180s. Aperture increased to f/2.8-f/3.5.


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ISO500 all shots. I was in Av mode, f/5.6 & 1/60s in the early shots. In the late shots I switched to Tv & 1/180s. Aperture increased to f/2.8-f/3.5.
Did you use flash for this? It is a bit hard to get a real great look at a sport like this. You have don a nice job. Not my favorite sport I think, but I guess this is fun and exciting to see next to the ring. Lots of light!
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Did you use flash for this?
Yes, but it wasn't very effective. I'd never normally watch this stuff, but at this event, which was a Sci-Fi & Fantasy Pop Expo, it was on and making a lot of noise. I'd really like to try again and get it right. Maybe they'll be there next year.

I had a flash defuser on. Perhaps, I should have taken it off for this. I've set the WB to the white front ring rope, but the players are a bit too red for my taste. Mixed lighting sources.

Here's another shot. Look at their feet. Both wrestlers feet are off the ground. (The little girl at the back thinks they're too noisy.)

An important part of the training for this type of "theatrical" wrestling must be learning how wild you can appear to be and how far you can go without killing or crippling your opponent.

ISO: 500
Shutter Speed: 1/180 sec
Aperture: 2.8
Focal Length: 19mm





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That last one is a very nice picture. Next year just don't use the flash at all. On the other hand if you have little experience with sports it still is a good way to come home with some descent actionshots, wich you did!
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Soccer - evening game

I went to watch the game in the Dutch Eredivisie Soccer for women between VVV (in Yellow) and ADO Den Haag. The light wasn't to good, and most shots with iso 6400 and even that was a bit low.

1) Sigma 70-200mm


2) All others with DA*300mm


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ADO Den Haag won this game, 2 - 1 and is leader in the competition.
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Hi Ron, your images are pretty sharp for the light (it looks like pretty low grade lighting). Do you use a noise reduction plug-in or program? If so, which one/s? I tried the TAv setting on the K5 with an ISO range 80-6400 (I think their your suggested settings?) for the first time tonight at a local Basket Ball game (tricky lighting), but very happy with the results although I admit to using Neatimage in post processing. All the shots were 1/250, f2.8 and 6400 ISO (or there abouts). I used a Sigma 70-200 and have used that lens on a KM at the same venue in the past, but was never able to come close to this.
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