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08-17-2013, 02:56 PM   #1456
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Does this thing still count as sport in 2013?















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QuoteOriginally posted by jiimaa Quote
Does this thing still count as sport in 2013?















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I should think so, but terrific shots regardless! (Is that an Ottoman helmet at the top? Where did this event take place?
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I'm impressed at the sharpness. How much PP did you apply?
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Thanks! That's from a show at medieval fair, at Hämeenlinna, Finland. It's still on today, and these people start the last round in about 1.5 hours (15.00 local time).

PP (done with LR) isn't anything radical since it's shot to jpeg. Hint warmer atmosphere, bit of shadows out to view, and contrast and blown highlights to compliment the large amount of shiny metals involved in the costumes. Actual sharpening is 100, but it's at 0.5 radius, and 80 mask. Noise reduction (25 both L&C) with that edge sharpening makes image appear sharper overall, while I think actual detail is in fact lost - but at 16mp resolution I don't really care about the number of individual hairs so much. After all, come on - this is at ISO 3200, and some of the images are even higher.

See the differences in this 100 % crop. In that picture, the top-right and bottom-left are after PP, while the top left and bottom right are straight from camera.

To pixel peep & compare full resolution images:
original (12.5 MB) here
finished (9.7 MB) here

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QuoteOriginally posted by jiimaa Quote
After all, come on - this is at ISO 3200, and some of the images are even higher.

See the differences in this 100 % crop. In that picture, the top-right and bottom-left are after PP, while the top left and bottom right are straight from camera.
What is impressive in the 100% crop is the sharpness at ISO3200 at 100% magnification without the noise being objectionable!!!

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Does this thing still count as sport in 2013?

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Offcourse it does, it did 500 years ago.
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Current K-mount cameras are fantastic for sports.
Chess comes to mind. Archery, bocce, shuffleboard, hiking, ice climbing, and the likes. And yes, medieval sword fighting.

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Football season began for our school last night. Started the season with a 31-14 win. I took photos in the first half only due to a lightning delay after halftime.














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American football is easy-peasy job for a K-mount camera.
Try European football instead; any K-mount camera fails miserably.
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American football is easy-peasy job for a K-mount camera.
Try European football instead; any K-mount camera fails miserably.
Are you trying to be funny?

It's not working.
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Are you trying to be funny?
It's not working.
It's not fun, it's a fact. Two different games, different rules, one is much slower and constrained in movement compared to other.
K-mount camera don't have sophisticated AF tracking and technologies needed to cope with extreme movement of European and South American football. It is not a secret that both Canon and Nikon send their teams to FIFA organised games to test their next-gen AF systems and cameras. Pentax has never done such thing.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
It's not fun, it's a fact. Two different games, different rules, one is much slower and constrained in movement compared to other.
K-mount camera don't have sophisticated AF tracking and technologies needed to cope with extreme movement of European and South American football. It is not a secret that both Canon and Nikon send their teams to FIFA organised games to test their next-gen AF systems and cameras. Pentax has never done such thing.
How does Aussie Rules rate?
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American football is easy-peasy job for a K-mount camera.
Try European football instead; any K-mount camera fails miserably.
These two are in fact quite different photography wise. In American football the ball is generally quite close to the athletes and even their faces, so you can get tighter crops more easily. In the European football (the one you actually play with your feet) the distance between the faces and the ball is bigger to begin with and the ball is also more all over the place much faster. I never even try to have my K-5 track the subject but use the AF-S all the time. However, you can still get decent pictures with a K-mount camera, although I'd of course prefer a much better tracking AF system. Meanwhile, here's a couple of shots from the Finnish U19 championship series:











As before, all shots taken with my K-5 and Tamron 70-200 f2.8 wide open.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
It's not fun, it's a fact. Two different games, different rules, one is much slower and constrained in movement compared to other.
K-mount camera don't have sophisticated AF tracking and technologies needed to cope with extreme movement of European and South American football. It is not a secret that both Canon and Nikon send their teams to FIFA organised games to test their next-gen AF systems and cameras. Pentax has never done such thing.

Several world-class sprinters have played professional American football. If a Pentax camera can track them, it can track anyone.

And of course Pentax hasn't sent teams to test their camera systems on sports. They don't make the mandatory lenses like the Canon 400/2.8 etc.
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