What bothers me about Pentax and the new K5

Indecent Exposure · 10-02-2010, 10:05 PM

What bothers me about Pentax and the new K-5.

Wow what a wonderful Pentax DSLR K-5 camera I have had in my hands for the last five days.

Quite honestly it knocks the competition straight back on their ass with a "wow" factor. How did Hoya/Pentax do that ? !!!!!!!!

But what really bothers me in thought is why Pentax would not advertise through the media.

Pentax breaks out the limited Pro 645 D and then the Pro-sumer k-7/ then the simply fantastic K-5.

Which very simply "Sit's Canon and Nikon Straight back on their ass" !
Quite simply Pentax/Hoya are "selling themselves short by not advertising"

We all have stood by and behind Pentax and have understood the backward and forward lens compatibility.

Why is Hoya/Pentax selling us short?

What is everyone in this forum thinking?

Last edited by Indecent Exposure; 10-02-2010 at 10:16 PM. Reason: more comment

Adam · 10-02-2010, 10:06 PM

+1

Pentax would be a lot more successful if the marketing department lived in the present.

Indecent Exposure · 10-02-2010, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Adam

+1

Pentax would be a lot more successful if the marketing department lived in the present.

I completely agree Adam.

**Digitalis** · 10-02-2010, 10:24 PM

Pentax has had a long history to releasing products without fanfare and just letting their products be discovered by their target consumers. Pentax has never advertised their cameras in the same way canon and Nikon do...the only company I would say are worse at advertising than pentax is Leica and cosina.

Indecent Exposure · 10-02-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Indecent Exposure

I completely agree Adam.

Adam,

You want to know another thing that really bothers me and quite confuses me.

Pentax/Hoya Technology lives in the present but the marketing practice lives in the past.

tuco · 10-02-2010, 10:36 PM

Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"?

dafiryde · 10-02-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Adam

+1

Pentax would be a lot more successful if the marketing department lived in the present.

That's exactly what i have been saying since i joined this forum.
Pentax head is in it Ar&^%$%%$e

Indecent Exposure · 10-02-2010, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by Digitalis

Pentax has had a long history to releasing products without fanfare and just letting their products be discovered by their target consumers. Pentax has never advertised their cameras in the same way canon and Nikon do...the only company I would say are worse at advertising than pentax is Leica and cosina.

Leica is one that I agree with "to die for equipment" Unfortunately they just do not fit the bill in today's society and needs. Really great stuff but they just do not fit the bill. Cosina is not anywhere in there. They wont make the grade.

Pentax/Hoya made the grade and they fit in with the consumer and "photographer" bill.

xjjohnno · 10-02-2010, 10:56 PM

Personally I'd prefer seeing decent product development rather then competing with companies that have much deeper pockets for advertising wars. Product reputation is the best marketing tool a company can have.

Mike Cash · 10-02-2010, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by tuco

Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"?

Only if you wish to continue in business.

Blue · 10-02-2010, 11:01 PM

You would think Ned would be blogging the heck out of the Star Award at Photokina.

Blue · 10-02-2010, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Indecent Exposure

Adam,

You want to know another thing that really bothers me and quite confuses me.

Pentax/Hoya Technology lives in the present but the marketing practice lives in the past.

Actually, Asahi Optical would be mopping up with this camera.

Originally posted by tuco

Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"?

It isn't about winning, its about surviving.

Indecent Exposure · 10-02-2010, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by tuco

Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"?

Nothing,

It has to do with the working side.

Do you work as a photographer? I do! Think about it.

My thoughts are. You will reply with something you will know nothing about!

hcarvalhoalves · 10-02-2010, 11:10 PM

Looks like they advertise a lot more on Japan than in the west, though.

I saw they have 10% market share on DSLR there. That's quite a feat for a company that was "dead".

If there's someone doing a bad job, it's their overseas representation in US/Canada.

Indecent Exposure · 10-02-2010, 11:24 PM

To educate the populous. I will follow this thread Adam, good day, I will return in a few days. I have work to do.

10-02-2010, 10:05 PM	#1
Indecent Exposure Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 78	What bothers me about Pentax and the new K5 What bothers me about Pentax and the new K-5. Wow what a wonderful Pentax DSLR K-5 camera I have had in my hands for the last five days. Quite honestly it knocks the competition straight back on their ass with a "wow" factor. How did Hoya/Pentax do that ? !!!!!!!! But what really bothers me in thought is why Pentax would not advertise through the media. Pentax breaks out the limited Pro 645 D and then the Pro-sumer k-7/ then the simply fantastic K-5. Which very simply "Sit's Canon and Nikon Straight back on their ass" ! Quite simply Pentax/Hoya are "selling themselves short by not advertising" We all have stood by and behind Pentax and have understood the backward and forward lens compatibility. Why is Hoya/Pentax selling us short? What is everyone in this forum thinking? Last edited by Indecent Exposure; 10-02-2010 at 10:16 PM. Reason: more comment

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Indecent Exposure Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 78 Original Poster	Originally posted by tuco Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"? Nothing, It has to do with the working side. Do you work as a photographer? I do! Think about it. My thoughts are. You will reply with something you will know nothing about! Last edited by Indecent Exposure; 10-02-2010 at 11:16 PM.

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Indecent Exposure Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 78 Original Poster	Originally posted by Adam +1 Pentax would be a lot more successful if the marketing department lived in the present. I completely agree Adam.

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Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Pentax has had a long history to releasing products without fanfare and just letting their products be discovered by their target consumers. Pentax has never advertised their cameras in the same way canon and Nikon do...the only company I would say are worse at advertising than pentax is Leica and cosina.

10-02-2010, 10:31 PM	#5
Indecent Exposure Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 78 Original Poster	Originally posted by Indecent Exposure I completely agree Adam. Adam, You want to know another thing that really bothers me and quite confuses me. Pentax/Hoya Technology lives in the present but the marketing practice lives in the past.

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tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,023	Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"?

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dafiryde Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 419	Originally posted by Adam +1 Pentax would be a lot more successful if the marketing department lived in the present. That's exactly what i have been saying since i joined this forum. Pentax head is in it Ar&^%$%%$e

10-02-2010, 10:54 PM	#8
Indecent Exposure Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 78 Original Poster	Originally posted by Digitalis Pentax has had a long history to releasing products without fanfare and just letting their products be discovered by their target consumers. Pentax has never advertised their cameras in the same way canon and Nikon do...the only company I would say are worse at advertising than pentax is Leica and cosina. Leica is one that I agree with "to die for equipment" Unfortunately they just do not fit the bill in today's society and needs. Really great stuff but they just do not fit the bill. Cosina is not anywhere in there. They wont make the grade. Pentax/Hoya made the grade and they fit in with the consumer and "photographer" bill.

10-02-2010, 10:56 PM	#9
xjjohnno Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,115	Personally I'd prefer seeing decent product development rather then competing with companies that have much deeper pockets for advertising wars. Product reputation is the best marketing tool a company can have.

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Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by tuco Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"? Only if you wish to continue in business.

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Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	You would think Ned would be blogging the heck out of the Star Award at Photokina.

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Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Indecent Exposure Adam, You want to know another thing that really bothers me and quite confuses me. Pentax/Hoya Technology lives in the present but the marketing practice lives in the past. Actually, Asahi Optical would be mopping up with this camera. Originally posted by tuco Why does it bother you? Who cares if everyone else doesn't know about it. Is there some need to be on the "winning side"? It isn't about winning, its about surviving.

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10-02-2010, 11:10 PM	#14
hcarvalhoalves Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,019	Looks like they advertise a lot more on Japan than in the west, though. I saw they have 10% market share on DSLR there. That's quite a feat for a company that was "dead". If there's someone doing a bad job, it's their overseas representation in US/Canada.

10-02-2010, 11:24 PM	#15
Indecent Exposure Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 78 Original Poster	To educate the populous. I will follow this thread Adam, good day, I will return in a few days. I have work to do.