Amazon: K-5 now in stock

brecklundin · 10-17-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by janneman

And it wasn't until long ago that video in dslr was considered a waste of money by many. That video in a dslr would actually put people off.

I still consider it paying for tech I have zero use for. But if I want a more body in which the features I need actually work as they should, I have to pay for that feature. And yeah, I will play with it I am sure but I don't see myself ever using it even for the fun of it.

janneman · 10-18-2010, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by brecklundin

I still consider it paying for tech I have zero use for. But if I want a more body in which the features I need actually work as they should, I have to pay for that feature. And yeah, I will play with it I am sure but I don't see myself ever using it even for the fun of it.

That was my thought as well but.....

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janneman · 10-18-2010, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Rite

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Yep. Pentax, are you AWARE?

Yep, they must be.... I guess it is "pay back time". They probabaly lost too much money trying to get a foothold in the USA with cheaper pricing, rebates etc at the cost of for example Europe. And they did not even get that foothold.

Helen Oster · 10-18-2010, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by BethC

I did not. I didn't want to be tempted again.....not yet anyway. I did check Adorama this morning when I first saw this thread and they have said out of stock all morning.

We had been led to understand that we'd start receiving them the 2nd week of October - but that didn't happen!

If you place this on order it'll be shipped on a first come first served basis. We don't charge your cc until we actually ship the item, so if you find one somewhere else earlier, you can always drop me an email to cancel: HelenO@adorama.com

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Rite · 10-18-2010, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by janneman

Yep, they must be.... I guess it is "pay back time". They probabaly lost too much money trying to get a foothold in the USA with cheaper pricing, rebates etc at the cost of for example Europe. And they did not even get that foothold.

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If at first you don't succeed ...

BethC · 10-18-2010, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by Helen Oster

If you place this on order it'll be shipped on a first come first served basis. We don't charge your cc until we actually ship the item, so if you find one somewhere else earlier, you can always drop me an email to cancel: HelenO@adorama.com

Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

Thanks Helen, just popped over to Adorama after I read this and it actually says it's in stock, so I ordered from you all. Cant' wait to get it!

BethC · 10-18-2010, 05:37 AM

Ok, wait a minute. When I ordered it 20 minutes ago, it said in stock. Now it says not yet available?????

dgaies · 10-18-2010, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by BethC

Ok, wait a minute. When I ordered it 20 minutes ago, it said in stock. Now it says not yet available?????

Maybe you got the last one? Not sure how it works over there, but I know with the Amazon stock when the last one was sold it reverted back to "not yet available" instead of "out of stock".

BethC · 10-18-2010, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Maybe you got the last one? Not sure how it works over there, but I know with the Amazon stock when the last one was sold it reverted back to "not yet available" instead of "out of stock".

I hope that's the case! I got So excited and then SO dissapointed. I sent an e mail to see what is up. Hope to hear from them soon.

Helen Oster · 10-18-2010, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by BethC

I hope that's the case! I got So excited and then SO dissapointed. I sent an e mail to see what is up. Hope to hear from them soon.

I'm not sure what you were seeing when you ordered, because we haven't had any in at all, yet.

I just checked the website, and underneath the picture it definitely says:

New item not available yet, Delivery scheduled to start October 2010.

northcoastgreg · 10-18-2010, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

Will soon drop below $1000, only halted by the current $ weakness.

Hopefully, this is true. But I wouldn't be surprised if it stays at the current price for at least the rest of the year, if not longer. Comparisons to the lower price of the Nikon D7000 are misleading, because the D7000 is hardly a perfect substitute for the K-7, for the very simple reason that it won't work with Pentax glass. These semi-pro models appeal most to those who have already invested in their brand's glass. There are very definite costs to switching, in terms of both loss of money on selling off glass to the hassle of the whole process. Now within the Nikon ecosystem, the D7000 is unique mostly in terms of its video features, and not in much else. Nikon produces other cameras with just as good, if not better, specs. The K-5, on the other hand, is very unique within the Pentax realm. Pentax has never made a digital camera quite this good. It's the best K-mount DSLR ever made, and therefore it can be sold at a higher price than the D7000 (which is hardly the best Nikon DSLR ever made).

Of course, this is not to say the K-5 won't come down at least a few hundred dollars. Pentax is currently profiting off of those consumers who want the K-5 so bad that they're willing to pay $1,600. As soon as the market at that price point is saturated, the price will drift downward. But how soon this will be is anyone's guess. If (as is not impossible), Pentax has not manufactured enough product to meet demand lower price points, the price may stay above $1,500 well into next year.

cbaytan · 10-18-2010, 10:24 AM

Another factor would higher than D7000 price would be, with my ultimate! economy english, "effects of volume on sales".

For instance if you sell 10.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company say 30c,
But if you sell 1.000.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company 10c.
Because additional papers costs to company, only ink and the paper.

Or something like that.

extravagrant · 10-18-2010, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by cbaytan

Another factor would higher than D7000 price would be, with my ultimate! economy english, "effects of volume on sales".

For instance if you sell 10.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company say 30c,
But if you sell 1.000.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company 10c.
Because additional papers costs to company, only ink and the paper.

Or something like that.

Economies of scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rite · 10-18-2010, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by extravagrant

Economies of scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Which, due to being overpriced, is stacked heavily against the K5.

If I were back in college doing a term paper on micro/macro or global market economic product impact, this thread would be a great source of practical information about what a company should not do in positioning it's product in an extremely volatile market.

brecklundin · 10-19-2010, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by janneman

That was my thought as well but.....
it can be fun

No, seriously, I don't have use for it. My decade old Sony DSC-S70 still does video. Granted it was only VGA video as in teeny 640x480 with sound and I have always had the option to use it...and I tried it a few times just because, but I don't find any fun in it for ME. I know others do stuff that just amazes me but I can tell you I will never be interested in using video features of a camera. And to be candid I kinda of resent having to pay for it being there. But then I remember there are features I use all the time which others don't so, hey it all evens out.

But never will you see me even mildly interested in any video feature at any time during the rest of my life.

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10-17-2010, 09:21 PM	#136
brecklundin Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,674	Originally posted by janneman And it wasn't until long ago that video in dslr was considered a waste of money by many. That video in a dslr would actually put people off. I still consider it paying for tech I have zero use for. But if I want a more body in which the features I need actually work as they should, I have to pay for that feature. And yeah, I will play with it I am sure but I don't see myself ever using it even for the fun of it.

10-18-2010, 01:50 AM	#138
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by Rite ==================================== Yep. Pentax, are you AWARE? Yep, they must be.... I guess it is "pay back time". They probabaly lost too much money trying to get a foothold in the USA with cheaper pricing, rebates etc at the cost of for example Europe. And they did not even get that foothold.

10-18-2010, 02:43 AM	#139
Helen Oster Adorama Camera Representative Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 550	Originally posted by BethC I did not. I didn't want to be tempted again.....not yet anyway. I did check Adorama this morning when I first saw this thread and they have said out of stock all morning. We had been led to understand that we'd start receiving them the 2nd week of October - but that didn't happen! If you place this on order it'll be shipped on a first come first served basis. We don't charge your cc until we actually ship the item, so if you find one somewhere else earlier, you can always drop me an email to cancel: HelenO@adorama.com Helen Oster Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

10-18-2010, 04:14 AM	#140
Rite Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 337	Originally posted by janneman Yep, they must be.... I guess it is "pay back time". They probabaly lost too much money trying to get a foothold in the USA with cheaper pricing, rebates etc at the cost of for example Europe. And they did not even get that foothold. ======================================= If at first you don't succeed ...

10-18-2010, 05:26 AM	#141
BethC Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pennsylvannia Photos: Albums Posts: 377	Originally posted by Helen Oster If you place this on order it'll be shipped on a first come first served basis. We don't charge your cc until we actually ship the item, so if you find one somewhere else earlier, you can always drop me an email to cancel: HelenO@adorama.com Helen Oster Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador Thanks Helen, just popped over to Adorama after I read this and it actually says it's in stock, so I ordered from you all. Cant' wait to get it!

10-18-2010, 05:37 AM	#142
BethC Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pennsylvannia Photos: Albums Posts: 377	Ok, wait a minute. When I ordered it 20 minutes ago, it said in stock. Now it says not yet available?????

10-18-2010, 05:40 AM	#143
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by BethC Ok, wait a minute. When I ordered it 20 minutes ago, it said in stock. Now it says not yet available????? Maybe you got the last one? Not sure how it works over there, but I know with the Amazon stock when the last one was sold it reverted back to "not yet available" instead of "out of stock".

10-18-2010, 05:45 AM	#144
BethC Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pennsylvannia Photos: Albums Posts: 377	Quote: Maybe you got the last one? Not sure how it works over there, but I know with the Amazon stock when the last one was sold it reverted back to "not yet available" instead of "out of stock". I hope that's the case! I got So excited and then SO dissapointed. I sent an e mail to see what is up. Hope to hear from them soon.

10-18-2010, 06:03 AM	#145
Helen Oster Adorama Camera Representative Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 550	Originally posted by BethC I hope that's the case! I got So excited and then SO dissapointed. I sent an e mail to see what is up. Hope to hear from them soon. I'm not sure what you were seeing when you ordered, because we haven't had any in at all, yet. I just checked the website, and underneath the picture it definitely says: New item not available yet, Delivery scheduled to start October 2010.

10-18-2010, 09:22 AM	#146
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,175	Originally posted by falconeye Will soon drop below $1000, only halted by the current $ weakness. Hopefully, this is true. But I wouldn't be surprised if it stays at the current price for at least the rest of the year, if not longer. Comparisons to the lower price of the Nikon D7000 are misleading, because the D7000 is hardly a perfect substitute for the K-7, for the very simple reason that it won't work with Pentax glass. These semi-pro models appeal most to those who have already invested in their brand's glass. There are very definite costs to switching, in terms of both loss of money on selling off glass to the hassle of the whole process. Now within the Nikon ecosystem, the D7000 is unique mostly in terms of its video features, and not in much else. Nikon produces other cameras with just as good, if not better, specs. The K-5, on the other hand, is very unique within the Pentax realm. Pentax has never made a digital camera quite this good. It's the best K-mount DSLR ever made, and therefore it can be sold at a higher price than the D7000 (which is hardly the best Nikon DSLR ever made). Of course, this is not to say the K-5 won't come down at least a few hundred dollars. Pentax is currently profiting off of those consumers who want the K-5 so bad that they're willing to pay $1,600. As soon as the market at that price point is saturated, the price will drift downward. But how soon this will be is anyone's guess. If (as is not impossible), Pentax has not manufactured enough product to meet demand lower price points, the price may stay above $1,500 well into next year.

10-18-2010, 10:24 AM	#147
cbaytan Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trabzon/Turkey Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,010	Another factor would higher than D7000 price would be, with my ultimate! economy english, "effects of volume on sales". For instance if you sell 10.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company say 30c, But if you sell 1.000.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company 10c. Because additional papers costs to company, only ink and the paper. Or something like that.

10-18-2010, 11:33 AM	#148
extravagrant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chicago Photos: Gallery Posts: 121	Originally posted by cbaytan Another factor would higher than D7000 price would be, with my ultimate! economy english, "effects of volume on sales". For instance if you sell 10.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company say 30c, But if you sell 1.000.000 newspaper, each paper costs to company 10c. Because additional papers costs to company, only ink and the paper. Or something like that. Economies of scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

10-18-2010, 08:07 PM	#149
Rite Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 337	Originally posted by extravagrant Economies of scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ============================= Which, due to being overpriced, is stacked heavily against the K5. If I were back in college doing a term paper on micro/macro or global market economic product impact, this thread would be a great source of practical information about what a company should not do in positioning it's product in an extremely volatile market.

10-19-2010, 12:56 AM	#150
brecklundin Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,674	Originally posted by janneman That was my thought as well but..... it can be fun No, seriously, I don't have use for it. My decade old Sony DSC-S70 still does video. Granted it was only VGA video as in teeny 640x480 with sound and I have always had the option to use it...and I tried it a few times just because, but I don't find any fun in it for ME. I know others do stuff that just amazes me but I can tell you I will never be interested in using video features of a camera. And to be candid I kinda of resent having to pay for it being there. But then I remember there are features I use all the time which others don't so, hey it all evens out. But never will you see me even mildly interested in any video feature at any time during the rest of my life.