Just got my K-5 :)

creampuff · 10-15-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by SpartanWarrior

Does the K-5 have better noise control over the Kr or about the same?
also how do you think the 7D noise is compared to the K-5? thanks

Yes to your question. But noise control aside, when you see the quality from the 14-bit RAW file at lower ISOs, it is breathtaking. 645D test images aside, I haven't seen such image quality previously from Pentax.
I seriously don't care about comparing with the Canon 7D or any other camera.

jonny1986 · 10-15-2010, 04:25 PM

from what i m seeing i can already give my point:

- k5 and kr produce the best apsc IQ in respective category.
-k5 is medum format comparing quality in many way, especially color depth and dynamic are amazing
-high iso is near d700 and no more than a stop from d3s
-14 bit are not a gimmick and im sure pentax has made a lot of test indicating that 14 bit were better choiche than 12 bit.
-high iso are amazing especially for the grain and the fact that color is the same from iso 80 to iso 6400
-iso 12800 is really usable.
-iso 51200 in band white cna be used.
-iso 80 s not really considered by many but im sure it will be amazing especially for nature photography compensating for dynamic loss with graduated filter, and also long exposure will benefit a lot
-one thing amazes me is the way the k5 files can PP. it seems that iso 1600 can take in some case 2 3 stop of pushing and still b really usable, and iso 100 has PP to spare.

TOUGEFC · 10-15-2010, 04:27 PM

would you be able to post some iso 80 & 100 shots thanks, im very curious to see how it performs to the older models.

**Clarkey** · 10-15-2010, 04:41 PM

Looks great. Enjoy your get together tomorrow. FYI. there are a number of videos starting to appear on youtube with the K-5.

This is my fav thus far.

You Tube

Raylon · 10-15-2010, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

I seriously don't care about comparing with the Canon 7D or any other camera.

Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it.

jonny1986 · 10-15-2010, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Raylon

Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it.

your canon 7d wont never ever compare favourably in any situation to the k5...sony sensor is stunning, at low iso the k5 , i mean iao 80-400 , will show far bette dr and less less noise...at hgh iso the k7 will be trashed away. canon once was the king of sensor due mostly to smart noise reduction, years after years is losing position.
be happy with your brick is still a good camera.
14 bit are paying a lot, and this is a smart choiche from pentax.
personallythe canon Iq is most of the time flawed by a poor color, i mean fake,rendition and color depth. in particular red and skin tone. show me one 1000 photos and ill recognize every canon 7d photos. faked color.

Tony3d · 10-15-2010, 04:55 PM

Well I guess it's time to give my K7 to the kid!

jonny1986 · 10-15-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Raylon

Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews_data/pentax_kx/boxshot/pentaxkx-iso12800.jpg

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews_data/canon_eos7d/boxshot/canon7d_nrstand_iso12800.jpg

where are the color in canon 7d?
gone as detail.
kx shot preserve all the tonality and color.
and from the first shot the k5 is at least, and one stop better than kx, at least...better not posting the low iso. Dr has never been a strongest point of canon camera, the 5d2 is a sample...

jonny1986 · 10-15-2010, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Tony3d

Well I guess it's time to give my K7 to the kid!

i have a k20 a k7 and i plan the 645d for which i have already bought 5 lenses.
i planned also the k5 and kr and keep the k7 as second body. but at this point would be hard during a shooting using both the camera. i think k7 with wide angle and k5 with tele would be a nice choiceh.
i think im converting my k20d to a full ir camera or sell it.

**Ex Finn.** · 10-15-2010, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by Raylon

Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it.

Maybe he just likes Pentax. I could care less how the other brand are doing or performing.
This will change of course, if I ever decide to buy one of them.
How does your C***n handle them 20+ year old lenses?.

**interested_observer** · 10-15-2010, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

That's SO WRONG...
The reason why your photography hasn't improved is because you're not shot enough... maybe the only free time you have is at night and you've never got decent shots at dusk or darker in the past.

... so true ... That's why I wear sunglasses during the day....

kittykat46 · 10-15-2010, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Raylon

Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it.

Come on....give the guy a break.
He's not a 7D user, as far as I know.

I am, one, part-time, anyway.....and from the photos I've seen I'm pretty confident the K-5 will lose NOTHING to the 7D in image quality.

Raylon · 10-15-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by jonny1986

where are the color in canon 7d?
gone as detail.

Meh, I am extremely happy with the colors it puts out. Nothing one or two little sliders in camera can't fix. Also I would much rather take the extra details and cropping power

Originally posted by Ex Finn.:

How does your C***n handle them 20+ year old lenses?.

I could honestly care less about 20 year old lenses. Why buy a $1400 camera and stick an old manual focus junker on it? I like my USM lenses that focus instantly...

Rory · 10-15-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Tony3d

Well I guess it's time to give my K7 to the kid!

Great idea, Dad!

deadwolfbones · 10-15-2010, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Raylon

Meh, I am extremely happy with the colors it puts out. Nothing one or two little sliders in camera can't fix. Also I would much rather take the extra details and cropping power

I could honestly care less about 20 year old lenses. Why buy a $1400 camera and stick an old manual focus junker on it? I like my USM lenses that focus instantly...

Your trolling is getting more obvious.

10-15-2010, 05:00 PM	#85
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by Raylon Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it. Maybe he just likes Pentax. I could care less how the other brand are doing or performing. This will change of course, if I ever decide to buy one of them. How does your C**n handle them 20+ year old lenses?. Last edited by Ex Finn.; 10-15-2010 at 05:07 PM.*

10-15-2010, 04:06 PM	#76
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by SpartanWarrior Does the K-5 have better noise control over the Kr or about the same? also how do you think the 7D noise is compared to the K-5? thanks Yes to your question. But noise control aside, when you see the quality from the 14-bit RAW file at lower ISOs, it is breathtaking. 645D test images aside, I haven't seen such image quality previously from Pentax. I seriously don't care about comparing with the Canon 7D or any other camera.

10-15-2010, 04:25 PM	#77
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	from what i m seeing i can already give my point: - k5 and kr produce the best apsc IQ in respective category. -k5 is medum format comparing quality in many way, especially color depth and dynamic are amazing -high iso is near d700 and no more than a stop from d3s -14 bit are not a gimmick and im sure pentax has made a lot of test indicating that 14 bit were better choiche than 12 bit. -high iso are amazing especially for the grain and the fact that color is the same from iso 80 to iso 6400 -iso 12800 is really usable. -iso 51200 in band white cna be used. -iso 80 s not really considered by many but im sure it will be amazing especially for nature photography compensating for dynamic loss with graduated filter, and also long exposure will benefit a lot -one thing amazes me is the way the k5 files can PP. it seems that iso 1600 can take in some case 2 3 stop of pushing and still b really usable, and iso 100 has PP to spare.

10-15-2010, 04:27 PM	#78
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	would you be able to post some iso 80 & 100 shots thanks, im very curious to see how it performs to the older models.

10-15-2010, 04:45 PM	#80
Raylon Guest	Originally posted by creampuff I seriously don't care about comparing with the Canon 7D or any other camera. Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it.

10-15-2010, 04:50 PM	#81
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	Originally posted by Raylon Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it. your canon 7d wont never ever compare favourably in any situation to the k5...sony sensor is stunning, at low iso the k5 , i mean iao 80-400 , will show far bette dr and less less noise...at hgh iso the k7 will be trashed away. canon once was the king of sensor due mostly to smart noise reduction, years after years is losing position. be happy with your brick is still a good camera. 14 bit are paying a lot, and this is a smart choiche from pentax. personallythe canon Iq is most of the time flawed by a poor color, i mean fake,rendition and color depth. in particular red and skin tone. show me one 1000 photos and ill recognize every canon 7d photos. faked color.

10-15-2010, 04:55 PM	#82
Tony3d Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Orlando Florida Posts: 487	Well I guess it's time to give my K7 to the kid!

10-15-2010, 04:55 PM	#83
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	Originally posted by Raylon Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews_data/pentax_kx/boxshot/pentaxkx-iso12800.jpg http://www.dpreview.com/reviews_data/canon_eos7d/boxshot/canon7d_nrstand_iso12800.jpg where are the color in canon 7d? gone as detail. kx shot preserve all the tonality and color. and from the first shot the k5 is at least, and one stop better than kx, at least...better not posting the low iso. Dr has never been a strongest point of canon camera, the 5d2 is a sample...

10-15-2010, 04:57 PM	#84
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	Originally posted by Tony3d Well I guess it's time to give my K7 to the kid! i have a k20 a k7 and i plan the 645d for which i have already bought 5 lenses. i planned also the k5 and kr and keep the k7 as second body. but at this point would be hard during a shooting using both the camera. i think k7 with wide angle and k5 with tele would be a nice choiceh. i think im converting my k20d to a full ir camera or sell it.

10-15-2010, 05:13 PM	#86
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	Originally posted by creampuff That's SO WRONG... The reason why your photography hasn't improved is because you're not shot enough... maybe the only free time you have is at night and you've never got decent shots at dusk or darker in the past. ... so true ... That's why I wear sunglasses during the day....

10-15-2010, 05:22 PM	#87
kittykat46 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 923	Originally posted by Raylon Why? Afraid your brand new camera is gunna get beat in ISO performance by a year old camera with a smaller sensor and more megapixels? I am curious too, I would really like to see the comparison between the two. Guess we will have to wait for DPReviews take on it. Come on....give the guy a break. He's not a 7D user, as far as I know. I am, one, part-time, anyway.....and from the photos I've seen I'm pretty confident the K-5 will lose NOTHING to the 7D in image quality.

10-15-2010, 05:26 PM	#88
Raylon Guest	Originally posted by jonny1986 where are the color in canon 7d? gone as detail. Meh, I am extremely happy with the colors it puts out. Nothing one or two little sliders in camera can't fix. Also I would much rather take the extra details and cropping power Originally posted by Ex Finn.: How does your C***n handle them 20+ year old lenses?. I could honestly care less about 20 year old lenses. Why buy a $1400 camera and stick an old manual focus junker on it? I like my USM lenses that focus instantly...

10-15-2010, 05:26 PM	#89
Rory Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chicago Photos: Gallery Posts: 672	Originally posted by Tony3d Well I guess it's time to give my K7 to the kid! Great idea, Dad!

10-15-2010, 05:38 PM	#90
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Originally posted by Raylon Meh, I am extremely happy with the colors it puts out. Nothing one or two little sliders in camera can't fix. Also I would much rather take the extra details and cropping power I could honestly care less about 20 year old lenses. Why buy a $1400 camera and stick an old manual focus junker on it? I like my USM lenses that focus instantly... Your trolling is getting more obvious.