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JohnBee · 10-15-2010, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by dylansalt

I have seen shots just as sharp from a K20D - and all studio shots

Errrr... are you sure were looking at the same pictures here?

As a dedicated K20D owner, I can assure you there is nothing remotely close to this coming from a K20D sensor, regardless of the glass we stick in front of it it.

Steelski · 10-15-2010, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Errrr... are you sure were looking at the same pictures here?

As a dedicated K20D owner, I can assure you there is nothing remotely close to this coming from a K20D sensor, regardless of the glass we stick in front of it it.

As a K20D STUDIO shooter, I will vouch for this!
Plus, they are Jpegs

falconeye · 10-15-2010, 04:16 AM

Thanks for the link.

That's exactly the quality to be expected from a studio session. Of course, all too often not delivered. I am still waiting for the corresponding 645D samples

BTW, the K-7/K20D can do the same (except it's 14.2 rather than 16MP). I'm sure benjikan could provide similiar samples if he wouldn't keep the originals for his customers ...

**NaClH2O** · 10-15-2010, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by axl

now we just have to find some spare cash...

I have to agree axl. I'm finding my peanut butter sandwiches quite tastey, yes they are.

NaCl(and hot dogs for an extra special treat once a month or so)H2O

JohnBee · 10-15-2010, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

BTW, the K-7/K20D can do the same

The K-7 sensor actually ended-up with slightly more resolving power than the K20D pixel/pixel. However The K-5 has substantially more than the K-7 and K20D which is why I say there's just no way a K20D could keep up.

Well... maybe if we shot 6 images and stacked for supersolution, then maybe.
But then again... the K-5 would just come back with speedy 7FPS retaliation.

In any case, it looks like the K-5 ranks near the top in terms of resolution and DR.
I just wish someone could quantify that with some hard core numbers now...

kenyee · 10-15-2010, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

BTW, the K-7/K20D can do the same (except it's 14.2 rather than 16MP).

I can provide studio images that are as sharp, but if I tried pushing shadows that hard, you'd see a lot of chroma noise in the shadows of my K20D pics...

falconeye · 10-15-2010, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by kenyee

I can provide studio images that are as sharp, but if I tried pushing shadows that hard, you'd see a lot of chroma noise in the shadows of my K20D pics...

I am with you on both statements made.

axl · 10-15-2010, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by NaClH2O

I have to agree axl. I'm finding my peanut butter sandwiches quite tastey, yes they are.

NaCl(and hot dogs for an extra special treat once a month or so)H2O

LoL...
But I don't think even that diet would help me! After 43, 77, K50/1.2, FA*24, K10GP and K-x in one year, I'll have to work few overtime shifts before my savings will recover. Not mention baby on the way! Well, it looks like the K10 has still long future ahead (not that I would mind that much as I love it to bits)

creampuff · 10-15-2010, 09:21 AM

Well Frank and I and a quite a number of Singaporean Pentax users have just collected our K-5 cameras and I will say this, it just beats the crap out of the K-7 in just about every department. AF is just superb, LV will leave you amazed just how fast it is and the shutter is definitely quieter than the K-7!!!

Just a word of warning to potential K-5 users... buy the fastest SD card you can lay your hands on (ie. nothing less than Sandisk Extreme) and more importantly, forget about using your cheap and crappy lenses because you will quickly discover just how deficient they really are. Lenses you always thought were sharp enough in the past, you will now find just cannot make it in terms of sharpness.

raz · 10-15-2010, 09:23 AM

Impressive sharpness and detail in those portraits.

SpartanWarrior · 10-15-2010, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

Well Frank and I and a quite a number of Singaporean Pentax users have just collected our K-5 cameras and I will say this, it just beats the crap out of the K-7 in just about every department. AF is just superb, LV will leave you amazed just how fast it is and the shutter is definitely quieter than the K-7!!!

Just a word of warning to potential K-5 users... buy the fastest SD card you can lay your hands on (ie. nothing less than Sandisk Extreme) and more importantly, forget about using your cheap and crappy lenses because you will quickly discover just how deficient they really are. Lenses you always thought were sharp enough in the past, you will now find just cannot make it in terms of sharpness.

Will the DA* 16-50 2.8 work great with the K-5?

LeeRunge · 10-15-2010, 09:44 AM

ISO looks like a win, how is the AF and buffer for high speed shooting? And can the SDM motors keep up or are they a bottleneck?

Recercare · 10-15-2010, 12:54 PM

The pictures look great. I have spent some time surfing for K-5 high ISO examples and to me it seems like the K-5 is not better than K-r regarding noise. However, that is expected I guess due to the difference in MP. By the way......it's too early to conclude anything at all

Kind regards
.lars

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10-15-2010, 03:01 AM	#16
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by dylansalt I have seen shots just as sharp from a K20D - and all studio shots Errrr... are you sure were looking at the same pictures here? As a dedicated K20D owner, I can assure you there is nothing remotely close to this coming from a K20D sensor, regardless of the glass we stick in front of it it.

10-15-2010, 03:03 AM	#17
Steelski Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Varna Posts: 470	Originally posted by JohnBee Errrr... are you sure were looking at the same pictures here? As a dedicated K20D owner, I can assure you there is nothing remotely close to this coming from a K20D sensor, regardless of the glass we stick in front of it it. As a K20D STUDIO shooter, I will vouch for this! Plus, they are Jpegs

10-15-2010, 04:16 AM	#18
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Thanks for the link. That's exactly the quality to be expected from a studio session. Of course, all too often not delivered. I am still waiting for the corresponding 645D samples BTW, the K-7/K20D can do the same (except it's 14.2 rather than 16MP). I'm sure benjikan could provide similiar samples if he wouldn't keep the originals for his customers ...

10-15-2010, 04:19 AM	#19
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	Originally posted by axl now we just have to find some spare cash... I have to agree axl. I'm finding my peanut butter sandwiches quite tastey, yes they are. NaCl(and hot dogs for an extra special treat once a month or so)H2O

10-15-2010, 04:35 AM	#20
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by falconeye BTW, the K-7/K20D can do the same The K-7 sensor actually ended-up with slightly more resolving power than the K20D pixel/pixel. However The K-5 has substantially more than the K-7 and K20D which is why I say there's just no way a K20D could keep up. Well... maybe if we shot 6 images and stacked for supersolution, then maybe. But then again... the K-5 would just come back with speedy 7FPS retaliation. In any case, it looks like the K-5 ranks near the top in terms of resolution and DR. I just wish someone could quantify that with some hard core numbers now...

10-15-2010, 08:02 AM	#21
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by falconeye BTW, the K-7/K20D can do the same (except it's 14.2 rather than 16MP). I can provide studio images that are as sharp, but if I tried pushing shadows that hard, you'd see a lot of chroma noise in the shadows of my K20D pics...

10-15-2010, 08:11 AM	#22
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by kenyee I can provide studio images that are as sharp, but if I tried pushing shadows that hard, you'd see a lot of chroma noise in the shadows of my K20D pics... I am with you on both statements made.

10-15-2010, 08:47 AM	#23
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by NaClH2O I have to agree axl. I'm finding my peanut butter sandwiches quite tastey, yes they are. NaCl(and hot dogs for an extra special treat once a month or so)H2O LoL... But I don't think even that diet would help me! After 43, 77, K50/1.2, FA*24, K10GP and K-x in one year, I'll have to work few overtime shifts before my savings will recover. Not mention baby on the way! Well, it looks like the K10 has still long future ahead (not that I would mind that much as I love it to bits)

10-15-2010, 09:21 AM	#24
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Well Frank and I and a quite a number of Singaporean Pentax users have just collected our K-5 cameras and I will say this, it just beats the crap out of the K-7 in just about every department. AF is just superb, LV will leave you amazed just how fast it is and the shutter is definitely quieter than the K-7!!! Just a word of warning to potential K-5 users... buy the fastest SD card you can lay your hands on (ie. nothing less than Sandisk Extreme) and more importantly, forget about using your cheap and crappy lenses because you will quickly discover just how deficient they really are. Lenses you always thought were sharp enough in the past, you will now find just cannot make it in terms of sharpness.

10-15-2010, 09:23 AM	#25
raz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Timisoara, Romania Posts: 248	Impressive sharpness and detail in those portraits.

10-15-2010, 09:24 AM	#26
SpartanWarrior Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sparta, Greece. Posts: 104	Originally posted by creampuff Well Frank and I and a quite a number of Singaporean Pentax users have just collected our K-5 cameras and I will say this, it just beats the crap out of the K-7 in just about every department. AF is just superb, LV will leave you amazed just how fast it is and the shutter is definitely quieter than the K-7!!! Just a word of warning to potential K-5 users... buy the fastest SD card you can lay your hands on (ie. nothing less than Sandisk Extreme) and more importantly, forget about using your cheap and crappy lenses because you will quickly discover just how deficient they really are. Lenses you always thought were sharp enough in the past, you will now find just cannot make it in terms of sharpness. Will the DA* 16-50 2.8 work great with the K-5?

10-15-2010, 09:44 AM	#27
LeeRunge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 996	ISO looks like a win, how is the AF and buffer for high speed shooting? And can the SDM motors keep up or are they a bottleneck?

10-15-2010, 12:54 PM	#28
Recercare Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 359	The pictures look great. I have spent some time surfing for K-5 high ISO examples and to me it seems like the K-5 is not better than K-r regarding noise. However, that is expected I guess due to the difference in MP. By the way......it's too early to conclude anything at all Kind regards .lars

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