A couple K5 shots (100 vs 51200)

ogl · 10-19-2010, 04:49 AM

As pixel-peeper, I can say that 100% full-sized photos from K-5 is better than 14.6 MP.

MP doesn't spoil IQ. The crops are close to 10-12 MP pictures from Pentax in terms of sharpness. AA filter seems weaker than K-7. I'm really impressed. Better sensor?
PRIME II is the same as in K-7.

For me, IQ of K-5 kills Canon 7D.

JohnBee · 10-19-2010, 04:56 AM

Originally posted by ogl

As pixel-peeper, I can say that 100% full-sized photos from K-5 is better than 14.6 MP.

MP doesn't spoil IQ. The crops are close to 10-12 MP pictures from Pentax in terms of sharpness. AA filter seems weaker than K-7. I'm really impressed. Better sensor?
PRIME II is the same as in K-7.

For me, IQ of K-5 kills Canon 7D.

Have you seen this also?

K-5, ISO6400 RAW - (NO NR, OR PP)

Full size sample: http://www.bertin.ca/tmp/K-5/K-5_vs_D700/K5__1050_1_2.jpg

Also

UNPROCESSED RAW, K-5, ISO12800, f/5.6, 1/60s

And of course...

PROCESSED CROP, GLOBAL NR, 1 PASS, K-5, ISO12800, f/5.6, 1/60s

PROCESSED CROP, GLOBAL NR, 1 PASS, K-5, ISO12800, f/5.6, 1/60s

Click to view full size and detail

SpartanWarrior · 10-19-2010, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by ogl

As pixel-peeper, I can say that 100% full-sized photos from K-5 is better than 14.6 MP.

MP doesn't spoil IQ. The crops are close to 10-12 MP pictures from Pentax in terms of sharpness. AA filter seems weaker than K-7. I'm really impressed. Better sensor?
PRIME II is the same as in K-7.

For me, IQ of K-5 kills Canon 7D.

What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D?

JohnBee · 10-19-2010, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by SpartanWarrior

...but how much better can it be to the 7D?

Based on my calculations, I'd say about, twice as good.

melander · 10-19-2010, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by SpartanWarrior

What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D?

OGL is known here as a person that is never happy with pentax products, so when he finaly is happy with a pentax crop camera, then trust him

Vaikis_ · 10-19-2010, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by SpartanWarrior

What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D?

I think about 1 stop

K-5 colors to me seems better then canon and nikon

SpartanWarrior · 10-19-2010, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Vaikis_

I think about 1 stop

K-5 colors to me seems better then canon and nikon

So it is on par with my 5D II?

Vaikis_ · 10-19-2010, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by SpartanWarrior

So it is on par with my 5D II?

you have 5D II, so you can try to compare

SpartanWarrior · 10-19-2010, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by Vaikis_

you have 5D II, so you can try to compare

Ya but I don't have a K-5 yet and maybe not for a couple months,,, but there are people that have both and even Nikon D700 and are not posting any comparison shots, I would for sure if I did.

**jpzk** · 10-19-2010, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by dgaies

John, maybe we should ask Pentax for a kickback for any sales generated from your posts

Good idea!

But I thought you guys already worked for Pentax!

JP

ogl · 10-19-2010, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by SpartanWarrior

What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D?

'COZ I've worked with 7D RAW files and my opinion is the worst APS-C camera in terms of IQ, noise and DR.
Somebody say in this forum that 7D has one of the best IQ. It's not truth.

I say about real photos, not about 3D Mark - DXO.

JohnBee · 10-19-2010, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by jpzk

Good idea!

But I thought you guys already worked for Pentax!

JP

Considering Pentax wouldn't sponsor a publisher, I doubt they would ever consider my case studies for anything other than free publicity.

Which is perfectly fine with me tbh. as it could have gone in any direction as far as I'm concerned(D7000, A55 etc). But as it turns out, Pentax designed the better system and so here we are

I just wish I had a K-5 here so I could get down to business!
An in depth, K-5, vs, D700, vs D7000 showdown!

Atindra · 10-19-2010, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Considering Pentax wouldn't sponsor a publisher, I doubt they would ever consider my case studies for anything other than free publicity.

Which is perfectly fine with me tbh. as it could have gone in any direction as far as I'm concerned(D7000, A55 etc). But as it turns out, Pentax designed the better system and so here we are

I just wish I had a K-5 here so I could get down to business!
An in depth, K-5, vs, D700, vs D7000 showdown!

You did awesome service for forum members. Since from the launch of K-r and K-5 you were keen to compile every useful details and invested lots of your valuable time to evaluate noise performance and NR studies. Your enthusiasm and excellent work has helped Pentax tremendously.

I would like to say thank you for your efforts (I should have started a new thanks thread though

)
I would also like to thank all the early adopters for K-5 and K-r who took brave plunge before many of us could decide and their samples are helping us.

Atindra

kittykat46 · 10-19-2010, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by SpartanWarrior

So it is on par with my 5D II?

I don't think so....not there yet...but it looks to me the K-5 is encroaching on existing FF territory.

The next generation Full Frames will be a different story, of course...

dopeytree · 10-19-2010, 10:00 AM

Wow this looks amazing!

10-19-2010, 05:56 AM	#51
Vaikis_ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 213	Originally posted by SpartanWarrior What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D? I think about 1 stop K-5 colors to me seems better then canon and nikon Last edited by Vaikis_; 10-19-2010 at 06:01 AM.

10-19-2010, 06:56 AM	#58
Atindra Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bhavnagar (Gujarat),India Photos: Gallery Posts: 375	Originally posted by JohnBee Considering Pentax wouldn't sponsor a publisher, I doubt they would ever consider my case studies for anything other than free publicity. Which is perfectly fine with me tbh. as it could have gone in any direction as far as I'm concerned(D7000, A55 etc). But as it turns out, Pentax designed the better system and so here we are I just wish I had a K-5 here so I could get down to business! An in depth, K-5, vs, D700, vs D7000 showdown! You did awesome service for forum members. Since from the launch of K-r and K-5 you were keen to compile every useful details and invested lots of your valuable time to evaluate noise performance and NR studies. Your enthusiasm and excellent work has helped Pentax tremendously. I would like to say thank you for your efforts (I should have started a new thanks thread though) I would also like to thank all the early adopters for K-5 and K-r who took brave plunge before many of us could decide and their samples are helping us. Atindra

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10-19-2010, 04:49 AM	#46
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	As pixel-peeper, I can say that 100% full-sized photos from K-5 is better than 14.6 MP. MP doesn't spoil IQ. The crops are close to 10-12 MP pictures from Pentax in terms of sharpness. AA filter seems weaker than K-7. I'm really impressed. Better sensor? PRIME II is the same as in K-7. For me, IQ of K-5 kills Canon 7D.

10-19-2010, 04:56 AM	#47
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by ogl As pixel-peeper, I can say that 100% full-sized photos from K-5 is better than 14.6 MP. MP doesn't spoil IQ. The crops are close to 10-12 MP pictures from Pentax in terms of sharpness. AA filter seems weaker than K-7. I'm really impressed. Better sensor? PRIME II is the same as in K-7. For me, IQ of K-5 kills Canon 7D. Have you seen this also? K-5, ISO6400 RAW - (NO NR, OR PP) Full size sample: http://www.bertin.ca/tmp/K-5/K-5_vs_D700/K5__1050_1_2.jpg Also UNPROCESSED RAW, K-5, ISO12800, f/5.6, 1/60s And of course... PROCESSED CROP, GLOBAL NR, 1 PASS, K-5, ISO12800, f/5.6, 1/60s PROCESSED CROP, GLOBAL NR, 1 PASS, K-5, ISO12800, f/5.6, 1/60s *Click to view full size and detail*

10-19-2010, 05:00 AM	#48
SpartanWarrior Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sparta, Greece. Posts: 104	Originally posted by ogl As pixel-peeper, I can say that 100% full-sized photos from K-5 is better than 14.6 MP. MP doesn't spoil IQ. The crops are close to 10-12 MP pictures from Pentax in terms of sharpness. AA filter seems weaker than K-7. I'm really impressed. Better sensor? PRIME II is the same as in K-7. For me, IQ of K-5 kills Canon 7D. What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D?

10-19-2010, 05:02 AM	#49
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by SpartanWarrior ...but how much better can it be to the 7D? Based on my calculations, I'd say about, twice as good.

10-19-2010, 05:10 AM	#50
melander Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden, Umea Posts: 876	Originally posted by SpartanWarrior What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D? OGL is known here as a person that is never happy with pentax products, so when he finaly is happy with a pentax crop camera, then trust him

10-19-2010, 06:09 AM	#52
SpartanWarrior Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sparta, Greece. Posts: 104	Originally posted by Vaikis_ I think about 1 stop K-5 colors to me seems better then canon and nikon So it is on par with my 5D II?

10-19-2010, 06:18 AM	#53
Vaikis_ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 213	Originally posted by SpartanWarrior So it is on par with my 5D II? you have 5D II, so you can try to compare

10-19-2010, 06:20 AM	#54
SpartanWarrior Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sparta, Greece. Posts: 104	Originally posted by Vaikis_ you have 5D II, so you can try to compare Ya but I don't have a K-5 yet and maybe not for a couple months,,, but there are people that have both and even Nikon D700 and are not posting any comparison shots, I would for sure if I did.

10-19-2010, 06:41 AM	#55
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by dgaies John, maybe we should ask Pentax for a kickback for any sales generated from your posts Good idea! But I thought you guys already worked for Pentax! JP

10-19-2010, 06:44 AM	#56
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by SpartanWarrior What I am saying here now is not an insult, but are you saying that because your a canon hater? I mean I am going to buy the K-5 myself and do have the 7D and 5D II, but how much better can it be to the 7D? 'COZ I've worked with 7D RAW files and my opinion is the worst APS-C camera in terms of IQ, noise and DR. Somebody say in this forum that 7D has one of the best IQ. It's not truth. I say about real photos, not about 3D Mark - DXO.

10-19-2010, 06:48 AM	#57
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by jpzk Good idea! But I thought you guys already worked for Pentax! JP Considering Pentax wouldn't sponsor a publisher, I doubt they would ever consider my case studies for anything other than free publicity. Which is perfectly fine with me tbh. as it could have gone in any direction as far as I'm concerned(D7000, A55 etc). But as it turns out, Pentax designed the better system and so here we are I just wish I had a K-5 here so I could get down to business! An in depth, K-5, vs, D700, vs D7000 showdown!

10-19-2010, 08:04 AM	#59
kittykat46 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 923	Originally posted by SpartanWarrior So it is on par with my 5D II? I don't think so....not there yet...but it looks to me the K-5 is encroaching on existing FF territory. The next generation Full Frames will be a different story, of course...

10-19-2010, 10:00 AM	#60
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	Wow this looks amazing!