K-5 in Australia?

ozlizard · 01-07-2011, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by David

Your signature statement set you up for my response, it was too good to miss. Sorry if I have offended you

I am a bit slow on the uptake David, no offence taken.

ozlizard · 01-07-2011, 10:29 PM

Tommot those sample images in your Siggy 85 thread are awesome, do you know what camera they were taken with? If I was into portraits I would be seriously thinking about getting one!

Tommot1965 · 01-07-2011, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by ozlizard

Tommot those sample images in your Siggy 85 thread are awesome, do you know what camera they were taken with? If I was into portraits I would be seriously thinking about getting one!

not too sure..but i do know it was a canon.. something or other....

the 85 mm FL is quite uselfull for a lot of stuff..Im thinking base line at the ring basketball photos of my lads......or three steps back to get a better FOV

dunno where you get your gear down in Bridgy...but if your near perth..give Sam a call at Perth Camera Electronics..its the sort of shop where Tradesman buy their gear...if you see my meaning

**RichardS** · 01-08-2011, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by campdog

Hi guys, I picked up my new K5 body today from Camerahouse in Taree.I done my homework on prices first and could have saved quiet a bit on line.Paid $1795 for body only.( I know I could get cheaper) I think what I paid extra in price I have recouped over and over in the customer relationship I have formed with the owner. He is a well respected photographer with a wealth of knowledge he is only too wiiling to share. I came away a happy customer so I suppose thats all that counts. We went through all the bodies and I chose the one I wanted.
I thought of geting the kit with the 18-135 that would have made a better price combination. Just not sure if I need it.Thats where you guys might be able to help.
I normally use my FA*28-70 for walkaroubd and for a bit closer I use the FA*80-200. Wide and close in your face stuff I use a Sigma 10-20mm and a pentax 100mm for macro. As we are going to the USA in may it was suggested the 18-130 as a walkaround everyday use for my wife. I just couldnt see the benefit of the 18-130 on my camera with the FA*s resting. Anyone have any thoughts on this. I can still go back to Camerhouse and the 18-130 at kit price or pick it up in LA in May.
John

First, I agree with your decision to pay a bit extra for the body to have to relationship with the camera shop owner. I have a similar relationship with my local bike shop. But I don't buy everything from him. He knows that and he understands it.

I haven't seen or used the 18-135 so, naturally, I'm totally qualified to give advice about about it. We can talk about the convenience of having a large zoom range forever, but, really, it all comes down to IQ. Would you be satisfied with the images? The fact that you've acquired a couple of FA* lenses suggests that you're interested in IQ.

I've seen posts here that say the 18-135 is very good. I'd suggest you search them out. For what it's worth, I have a DA 55-300. I've used it as a walkaround lens when I think that I'll need a bit of length and been very happy with the IQ, but I wouldn't use it instead of my DA* 50-135 when I didn't need the extra length.

Richard.

ozlizard · 01-08-2011, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by Tommot1965

dunno where you get your gear down in Bridgy...but if your near perth..give Sam a call at Perth Camera Electronics..its the sort of shop where Tradesman buy their gear...if you see my meaning

Got my K20 from DWI, Siggy 10-20 from Camera House Cannington and the 24-60 from Youshop247. There is a guy in town but he's a Canonite. Did Perth Camera Electronics used to be in a Mall in the city? Got a feeling I got my K100 from there. Will see what price they can do on a K5, when I sell my K20 (damn, damn and bugger it will someone buy my K20!!!)

mcjm78 · 01-08-2011, 01:23 AM

I just got my K5 from Camera Electronics. Luving it!!! My 16-50mm feels like a new lens with great focus accuracy without any adjustment. Good price from Saul and I think they can post to Bridgy too.

Tommot1965 · 01-08-2011, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by ozlizard

Got my K20 from DWI, Siggy 10-20 from Camera House Cannington and the 24-60 from Youshop247. There is a guy in town but he's a Canonite. Did Perth Camera Electronics used to be in a Mall in the city? Got a feeling I got my K100 from there. Will see what price they can do on a K5, when I sell my K20 (damn, damn and bugger it will someone buy my K20!!!)

not too sure if they was in a Perth Mall..I dont think so...I paid $1699 for mine..plus they gave me $700 trade in for my K7....not too bad...if I didn't have a trade, id have asked if they could have done better..as it was I went away happy...
I bought a sigma 17-50 while I was there...the salesman was happy to price match it with a DWI deal..there and then......PCE had it for $799... straight away he cut it to $699.and checked the net to see if a better price could be got....in the end I think I paid $648...I was well happy with that.....as you know we in Australia normally have to go overseas for a deal like that.....

as a heads up on over siggy stuff from PCE..a Sig 70-200 OS will be about $1350 and the 85mm F1.4, some where around $850...and all that from a perth shop..nice or what ..

CRK actually pointed me in the direction of PCE when I rang them to enquire if they really would match grey imports for sigma.....it would have to be factory Backed..no way they would do it otherwise ?

after reading my above post...it makes me sound like a right tight arse price beater..Im not really..but i do ask for a better price..and if they are able..I will take it..if they are not able..I understand..and will still take...

ozlizard · 01-08-2011, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by Tommot1965

plus they gave me $700 trade in for my K7

Mmmm wonder if they would trade a K20+Siggy 24-60? Might have to give them a call come Monday...

justin-23 · 01-08-2011, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by campdog

Hi guys, I picked up my new K5 body today from Camerahouse in Taree.I done my homework on prices first and could have saved quiet a bit on line.Paid $1795 for body only.( I know I could get cheaper) I think what I paid extra in price I have recouped over and over in the customer relationship I have formed with the owner. He is a well respected photographer with a wealth of knowledge he is only too wiiling to share. I came away a happy customer so I suppose thats all that counts. We went through all the bodies and I chose the one I wanted.
I thought of geting the kit with the 18-135 that would have made a better price combination. Just not sure if I need it.Thats where you guys might be able to help.
I normally use my FA*28-70 for walkaroubd and for a bit closer I use the FA*80-200. Wide and close in your face stuff I use a Sigma 10-20mm and a pentax 100mm for macro. As we are going to the USA in may it was suggested the 18-130 as a walkaround everyday use for my wife. I just couldnt see the benefit of the 18-130 on my camera with the FA*s resting. Anyone have any thoughts on this. I can still go back to Camerhouse and the 18-130 at kit price or pick it up in LA in May.
John

I got the DA 18-135 kit purely because its weather sealed and has a decent range. The current zooms i'm using is the DA16-45 and the DA12-24. I only have DA* and FA* primes and limited primes. I've been out shooting with it today and it seems to be a decent performer. Everything though was at f8.

There is a use for it. A general travel/walkaround lens. Admittedly more expensive than i'd like, the IQ of the DA18-55 WR was ok, the DA18-135 seems better and more like the DA12-24 and the DA16-45.

Hypocorism · 01-08-2011, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by justin-23

There is a use for it. A general travel/walkaround lens. Admittedly more expensive than i'd like, the IQ of the DA18-55 WR was ok, the DA18-135 seems better and more like the DA12-24 and the DA16-45.

Yes 18-135 really is a versatile range.
My main obstacle is that, for me, it would represent more senseless duplication.

And those 12-35 rumours do make the pulse quicken slightly more...

.R.

campdog · 01-08-2011, 05:12 PM

Thanks for the imput people. I think image quality is what I want.If I stuff it on a 5 week oversaes trip, well I cant go back and do it again. After playing with the K5 yesterday with my macro 100 Im in love with the camera and the image quality. I had the sigma 17-70 and replaced it with the FA*28-70 and replaced the sigma 70-300 with the FA*80-200. Then again the image quality between my K10D and K7 is uncomparable.
I just dont want to go below the FA* image quality. Ill just keep reading and watching. Maybe another sigma 17-70 to put on the K10 for my wife.I have heard the image quality has improved since I got the first relead 2 and a half years ago.
John

Strait out of the box and snapped in manual.10mm macro in low light. No processing. Love it

ISO1600 f/2.8 @ 1/500th sec

ISO 400 f/3.2 @ 1/230th sec

justin-23 · 01-08-2011, 11:28 PM

if there was a significant savings on the kit the Da 18-135 would be a no brainer....
I wouldn't rush to get it, but personally i'd find the FA*28-70 too narrow on an APS-C sensor camera.

I'm all about IQ also, so if the DA 18-135 doesn't cut it at least as good in IQ as the DA12-24 and the DA16-45 then I'll sell it. I have a FA50, FA77 and DFA100 to sort of cover the range.....

ozlizard · 01-09-2011, 09:27 PM

Where is the best price ATM? Ryda are selling for $1528 and I don't think there is any postage charge (not sure about that). Amazon are cheaper but postage is only free to US. Any other options?

**Ash** · 01-09-2011, 09:38 PM

Ryda ships K-5s for an extra $15.75 - still not a bad price, considering...

pop4 · 01-09-2011, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by ozlizard

Where is the best price ATM? Ryda are selling for $1528 and I don't think there is any postage charge (not sure about that). Amazon are cheaper but postage is only free to US. Any other options?

Looking at their website and reading what is written there, the price is $1528.85, and postage will be $15.75 Australia wide (includes insurance). They do seem like the cheapest option right now (and they currently thrown in a camera care kit and a Lowepro bag); the next cheapest I can find are Digital Fun Stuff at $1585 and Camerapro at $1595; once again, these prices are excluding postage costs.

01-08-2011, 05:23 AM	#370
Hypocorism Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne .au Posts: 623	Originally posted by justin-23 There is a use for it. A general travel/walkaround lens. Admittedly more expensive than i'd like, the IQ of the DA18-55 WR was ok, the DA18-135 seems better and more like the DA12-24 and the DA16-45. Yes 18-135 really is a versatile range. My main obstacle is that, for me, it would represent more senseless duplication. And those 12-35 rumours do make the pulse quicken slightly more... .R. Last edited by Hypocorism; 01-08-2011 at 05:32 AM.

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01-07-2011, 10:18 PM	#361
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Originally posted by David Your signature statement set you up for my response, it was too good to miss. Sorry if I have offended you I am a bit slow on the uptake David, no offence taken.

01-07-2011, 10:29 PM	#362
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Tommot those sample images in your Siggy 85 thread are awesome, do you know what camera they were taken with? If I was into portraits I would be seriously thinking about getting one!

01-07-2011, 11:33 PM	#363
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by ozlizard Tommot those sample images in your Siggy 85 thread are awesome, do you know what camera they were taken with? If I was into portraits I would be seriously thinking about getting one! not too sure..but i do know it was a canon.. something or other.... the 85 mm FL is quite uselfull for a lot of stuff..Im thinking base line at the ring basketball photos of my lads......or three steps back to get a better FOV dunno where you get your gear down in Bridgy...but if your near perth..give Sam a call at Perth Camera Electronics..its the sort of shop where Tradesman buy their gear...if you see my meaning

01-08-2011, 12:52 AM	#364
RichardS Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nelson Bay, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,418	Originally posted by campdog Hi guys, I picked up my new K5 body today from Camerahouse in Taree.I done my homework on prices first and could have saved quiet a bit on line.Paid $1795 for body only.( I know I could get cheaper) I think what I paid extra in price I have recouped over and over in the customer relationship I have formed with the owner. He is a well respected photographer with a wealth of knowledge he is only too wiiling to share. I came away a happy customer so I suppose thats all that counts. We went through all the bodies and I chose the one I wanted. I thought of geting the kit with the 18-135 that would have made a better price combination. Just not sure if I need it.Thats where you guys might be able to help. I normally use my FA28-70 for walkaroubd and for a bit closer I use the FA80-200. Wide and close in your face stuff I use a Sigma 10-20mm and a pentax 100mm for macro. As we are going to the USA in may it was suggested the 18-130 as a walkaround everyday use for my wife. I just couldnt see the benefit of the 18-130 on my camera with the FAs resting. Anyone have any thoughts on this. I can still go back to Camerhouse and the 18-130 at kit price or pick it up in LA in May. John First, I agree with your decision to pay a bit extra for the body to have to relationship with the camera shop owner. I have a similar relationship with my local bike shop. But I don't buy everything from him. He knows that and he understands it. I haven't seen or used the 18-135 so, naturally, I'm totally qualified to give advice about about it. We can talk about the convenience of having a large zoom range forever, but, really, it all comes down to IQ. Would you be satisfied with the images? The fact that you've acquired a couple of FA lenses suggests that you're interested in IQ. I've seen posts here that say the 18-135 is very good. I'd suggest you search them out. For what it's worth, I have a DA 55-300. I've used it as a walkaround lens when I think that I'll need a bit of length and been very happy with the IQ, but I wouldn't use it instead of my DA* 50-135 when I didn't need the extra length. Richard.

01-08-2011, 01:12 AM	#365
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Originally posted by Tommot1965 dunno where you get your gear down in Bridgy...but if your near perth..give Sam a call at Perth Camera Electronics..its the sort of shop where Tradesman buy their gear...if you see my meaning Got my K20 from DWI, Siggy 10-20 from Camera House Cannington and the 24-60 from Youshop247. There is a guy in town but he's a Canonite. Did Perth Camera Electronics used to be in a Mall in the city? Got a feeling I got my K100 from there. Will see what price they can do on a K5, when I sell my K20 (damn, damn and bugger it will someone buy my K20!!!)

01-08-2011, 01:23 AM	#366
mcjm78 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 268	I just got my K5 from Camera Electronics. Luving it!!! My 16-50mm feels like a new lens with great focus accuracy without any adjustment. Good price from Saul and I think they can post to Bridgy too.

01-08-2011, 01:38 AM	#367
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by ozlizard Got my K20 from DWI, Siggy 10-20 from Camera House Cannington and the 24-60 from Youshop247. There is a guy in town but he's a Canonite. Did Perth Camera Electronics used to be in a Mall in the city? Got a feeling I got my K100 from there. Will see what price they can do on a K5, when I sell my K20 (damn, damn and bugger it will someone buy my K20!!!) not too sure if they was in a Perth Mall..I dont think so...I paid $1699 for mine..plus they gave me $700 trade in for my K7....not too bad...if I didn't have a trade, id have asked if they could have done better..as it was I went away happy... I bought a sigma 17-50 while I was there...the salesman was happy to price match it with a DWI deal..there and then......PCE had it for $799... straight away he cut it to $699.and checked the net to see if a better price could be got....in the end I think I paid $648...I was well happy with that.....as you know we in Australia normally have to go overseas for a deal like that..... as a heads up on over siggy stuff from PCE..a Sig 70-200 OS will be about $1350 and the 85mm F1.4, some where around $850...and all that from a perth shop..nice or what .. CRK actually pointed me in the direction of PCE when I rang them to enquire if they really would match grey imports for sigma.....it would have to be factory Backed..no way they would do it otherwise ? after reading my above post...it makes me sound like a right tight arse price beater..Im not really..but i do ask for a better price..and if they are able..I will take it..if they are not able..I understand..and will still take...

01-08-2011, 02:09 AM	#368
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Originally posted by Tommot1965 plus they gave me $700 trade in for my K7 Mmmm wonder if they would trade a K20+Siggy 24-60? Might have to give them a call come Monday...

01-08-2011, 03:13 AM	#369
justin-23 New Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canberra Posts: 19	Originally posted by campdog Hi guys, I picked up my new K5 body today from Camerahouse in Taree.I done my homework on prices first and could have saved quiet a bit on line.Paid $1795 for body only.( I know I could get cheaper) I think what I paid extra in price I have recouped over and over in the customer relationship I have formed with the owner. He is a well respected photographer with a wealth of knowledge he is only too wiiling to share. I came away a happy customer so I suppose thats all that counts. We went through all the bodies and I chose the one I wanted. I thought of geting the kit with the 18-135 that would have made a better price combination. Just not sure if I need it.Thats where you guys might be able to help. I normally use my FA28-70 for walkaroubd and for a bit closer I use the FA80-200. Wide and close in your face stuff I use a Sigma 10-20mm and a pentax 100mm for macro. As we are going to the USA in may it was suggested the 18-130 as a walkaround everyday use for my wife. I just couldnt see the benefit of the 18-130 on my camera with the FAs resting. Anyone have any thoughts on this. I can still go back to Camerhouse and the 18-130 at kit price or pick it up in LA in May. John I got the DA 18-135 kit purely because its weather sealed and has a decent range. The current zooms i'm using is the DA16-45 and the DA12-24. I only have DA and FA* primes and limited primes. I've been out shooting with it today and it seems to be a decent performer. Everything though was at f8. There is a use for it. A general travel/walkaround lens. Admittedly more expensive than i'd like, the IQ of the DA18-55 WR was ok, the DA18-135 seems better and more like the DA12-24 and the DA16-45.

01-08-2011, 05:12 PM	#371
campdog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bonny Hills, NSW, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 202	Thanks for the imput people. I think image quality is what I want.If I stuff it on a 5 week oversaes trip, well I cant go back and do it again. After playing with the K5 yesterday with my macro 100 Im in love with the camera and the image quality. I had the sigma 17-70 and replaced it with the FA28-70 and replaced the sigma 70-300 with the FA80-200. Then again the image quality between my K10D and K7 is uncomparable. I just dont want to go below the FA* image quality. Ill just keep reading and watching. Maybe another sigma 17-70 to put on the K10 for my wife.I have heard the image quality has improved since I got the first relead 2 and a half years ago. John Strait out of the box and snapped in manual.10mm macro in low light. No processing. Love it ISO1600 f/2.8 @ 1/500th sec ISO 400 f/3.2 @ 1/230th sec

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01-08-2011, 11:28 PM	#372
justin-23 New Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canberra Posts: 19	if there was a significant savings on the kit the Da 18-135 would be a no brainer.... I wouldn't rush to get it, but personally i'd find the FA*28-70 too narrow on an APS-C sensor camera. I'm all about IQ also, so if the DA 18-135 doesn't cut it at least as good in IQ as the DA12-24 and the DA16-45 then I'll sell it. I have a FA50, FA77 and DFA100 to sort of cover the range.....

01-09-2011, 09:27 PM	#373
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Where is the best price ATM? Ryda are selling for $1528 and I don't think there is any postage charge (not sure about that). Amazon are cheaper but postage is only free to US. Any other options?

01-09-2011, 09:38 PM	#374
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Ryda ships K-5s for an extra $15.75 - still not a bad price, considering...

01-09-2011, 09:38 PM	#375
pop4 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: YMML Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,879	Originally posted by ozlizard Where is the best price ATM? Ryda are selling for $1528 and I don't think there is any postage charge (not sure about that). Amazon are cheaper but postage is only free to US. Any other options? Looking at their website and reading what is written there, the price is $1528.85, and postage will be $15.75 Australia wide (includes insurance). They do seem like the cheapest option right now (and they currently thrown in a camera care kit and a Lowepro bag); the next cheapest I can find are Digital Fun Stuff at $1585 and Camerapro at $1595; once again, these prices are excluding postage costs.