Originally posted by falconeye Cannikin, please don't use this thread to do your resarch regarding DoF. Thank You.
As a starting point, please note that some image properties are defined at an image level rather than a pixel level. In your example, you're right, the lens is rendering the same pixels but not the same images as an FF image simply has more of them. DoF is defined at an image level and therefore, your statement can be proven to be wrong. However, I won't do it in this thread...
I recommend reading the article on equivalent lenses on Luminous Landscape before replying, too.
I am not doing "research", these are simple facts of physics to anyone who knows anything about optics (a scientific field outside of cameras). An image has nothing to do with "pixels". Pixels are a purely digital concept. An image is an optical concept, just like glasses, magnifying glasses or mirrors produce images. The thing you see in the viewfinder is an optical image, but there are obviously no "pixels" involved there. The image created by the lens is simply light rays bent in such a way that they converge at the rear focal point and subsequently diverge at the plane of the capture medium. If you stick a piece of paper in place of the back of the camera, there are no such pixels to be found, but the exact same image is rendered on that piece of paper.
To produce the same field of view in your picture on FF, indeed the DOF will be different from the APS-C camera, whether from moving in closer or with a longer focal length. I mentioned this from the very start. This is a simple practical consequence of FF. I am not and have not been arguing against this.
My statement is very simple: if you take a picture with a FF camera, and crop that picture to match the field of view of APS-C, the crop will look
exactly the same as the APS-C camera taken with the same lens from the same spot, DOF and all. I am seeing people act as if the FF sensor somehow changes the optical properties of the image, when this is not true.
Anyway, I am fine with dropping the topic. I just wanted to set the record straight after seeing people claim that FF's DOF advantage (a real thing from a practical sense) is due to "physics". It is a practical consequence of shooting technique involved with FF, not physics.